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meee:
meefgirl, I found this today as well: "that to try and talk to them is like talking to a brick wall". Best to leave it to God.
hugs,meee
G. Driggs:
Great topic meefsgirl.
When I go into an orthodox forum, it is my sincerest hope that at least one might recognize His (Jesus') voice, using Scriptures, and be lead to BT and the Truth. I always leave a link, either to Rays articles or the main site. Besides, who is better equipped, and ready to give an answer? Who has taught us all? Ray! I believe he is being taught by the Spirit, and in turn the Spirit teaches us through Ray. Ray teaches us how to "study to show thyself approved", which he (Ray) has learned from the Spirit. It all trickles down or up from the Rock, the Foundation, Jesus Christ.
So I agree, its very important to study, learn, grow, and be prepared. Once a particular "beam" has been removed from my own eye, I can see fit to help remove it from someone else eye, granted God is willing.
The majority of people I've shared with has truly been like hitting a brick wall, but still I hope maybe just one will see and hear. Usually if they dont listen after a couple exchanges I'll just "shake the dust of my feet" and move on. No point in staying around the same topic, debating, trying to prove I'm right, which is not the point. The point is God is right, and there is a remnant, the lost sheep, that will know and recognize His voice if they hear it, God willing.
There was a time when I wanted the "glory of men", to show them how smart I thought I was, just cause I got a little knowledge into me. I still have to remind myself not to grow and ego, or get puffed up, because nothing I say or do is of myself. All the glory is His, and no one else.
Question your motives, pray about them, is it to make yourself look good, or to make Him look good?
Remember, not too many will believe, just a few.
Once again, thanks for the great topic, and great answers all, I just had to agree.
Peace & Love, G.Driggs
meefsgirl:
Thanks for all the great replies guys!
I joined that particular forum in 2004 when I had just come out of the Hebrew Roots movement. I also met my husband in there the same year, but it was in 2006 that I ventured to the unorthodox section of this forum to find a bunch of universalists talking to orthodox who went in there to argue. They also talked amongst themselves and I was hooked. It took me six months to finally say, yes, this is what I believe too... because I was so easily deceived.. especially after coming out of the Hebrew Roots movement.
So I understand how important it can be to share with the orthodox, as G Driggs said, and share I did. There was a bunch of us who use to flood the orthodox sections and start threads about it. We did one thread for 7000 posts early last year! But I also had not one of them genuinely question. I believe other UR's had one or two. I so much wanted them to 'see', and I found it hard to comprehend why they called me a heretic and an apostate... that's not what I thought when I read the UR's in the unorthodox section. I still find it strange that people are so anti... but I understand that God has blinded their eyes, and they can't see until He wants them to.
Since then I've felt the Lord pulling me back, and now He's told me to stop. Maybe it is for more preparation as you've all shared, maybe this time it's to go deeper. However, life experience at this time is extremely tough for me (and I'll share on that in another area soon) and I find it hard to go deeper... but it's His work after all.
Love all your replies guys!
rockrdude:
I have found that I cannot even read or post in most forums where the members believe in Universal Salvation, or "UR". So many of them are filled with people who believe God will save everybody, which is good. But sometimes the amount of misinformation and false teaching for those who supposedly have their eyes and ears open staggers me to no end.
My life is busy enough where time to post anywhere is severely limited. I now spend my time here. God has proven to me time and time again that so much of what is shared here is real truth. Why bother with anything less than the truth? Between the forums and everything that Ray has provided for us to read, this place is a goldmine of good information and truth, and I thank God for Bible Truths as it is truly a blessing from God. :)
meefsgirl:
Hmmm.. as a newbie here I'm starting to get a bit concerned with how much you all seem to put Ray on a pedestal. Do you all believe that Ray has ALL THE TRUTH? If so, then I think I'll bow out because I don't believe anyone has all the truth and I am way past looking to 'leaders' to do it all for me. That was left behind when I left the orthodox church.
And I am also VERY glad that ordinary UR believers, faults and all, happened to preach and teach on that other orthodox forum so people like me could at least even hear about it.
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