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Roy Martin

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Having animosity
« on: July 05, 2009, 07:50:05 PM »

We put years of trust in Babylon to teach us. We put love, time and devotion and money into what we find out to be deception, and we are hurt, disappointed. A feeling as if we've been defiled or robbed. To think we gave all that money and commitment. Its natural that we want to say, hey that man robbed me or hurt me, but shouldn't at some point put it behind us? Is there not a way to reveal the truth without expressing animosity toward what we came out of. I have had these feelings myself. If I start talking about that system in any way, I find myself disbursing offense and have to stop myself. Offense will come, but woe to those that disburse it. Isn't that what Jesus said, or maybe Paul?
 They say we are evil and lost and misled, we say they are lost and blind and misled. We can't change anything on our own and neither can they.
I came from a bad past if you look at it in one way, but it was that past that led me to God, so I say it was good that it was bad. When I talk about my past or look at my past and where I've been, I see just the good in it. It was all Gods work and in His hands, how can I say it was bad.
 I see jokes and fun made at the people and pastors we left behind. I am also guilty of this. We talk, all is bad bad bad where we came from. It was God that took us there. How can we blame the pastors with their blinders on, or people that won't listen to us?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not for the deception in any way. I'm glad that God called me out of it.Its behind me now. It was good that God put me through it.
I believe that God assigns the teachers to do the stone throwing at Babylon. Ray is one of them. I know that I don't feel comfortable exposing anyone. I can in fact say a lot of good things that God did while I was in that system, in me, through me, and others as well. I saw the animosity in me today as I was talking to my wife about the worship team that we left behind. Now I can put it to rest and behind me, no animosity, only love and compassion and mercy is what I want to feel for them and all.
 Oh well, all is in God hands. Who am I to make any sense?

Peace
Roy
 
I'm not suggesting that things don't need to be exposed. Jesus was the master of exposing, Ray is a master at it, but most of us are not either of them. Or is this one of those things that we have to see the evil to see the good? My heart says it doesn't work for me. Babylon was good for me for awhile.
If I were to hold animosity toward every time I was lied to, or stolen from, or manipulated in my life time, I would be nothing but an animosity machine.
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mharrell08

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 08:30:42 PM »

Great points Roy...similar to Joe's post about merciful prayers to our Lord. Good reminder  :)

Eph 4:29-32  Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Eph 2:2-4  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

1 Pet 3:8-9  Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.

Ps 145:8-9  The LORD is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

Lam 3:22-23  It is of the LORD's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. They are new every morning: great is thy faithfulness.




Marques
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Roy Coates

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 10:59:42 PM »

You make sense to me Roy. I consider the "church" of Christianity a stepping stone. They were there for me, with open arms, when I needed to come out of the world and out of myself. It was a necessary process for me. I had to learn what they were teaching and doing to better understand the truth. I thank God that they are there for the next person that needs help. I figure it is the price I have to pay as the animosity and leers etc start coming my way to know the truth. I don't blame them or fault them, they serve a special pourpose. There is no waste in God's economy. However I do have a deep longing to bring them to understand the truth. God is dealing with me on this. I know only He can do this. I think Ray said it well when he said "hell hath no fury as a christian just shown the truth" I was crazy when I first started to see that Christianity had been lying to me all my life. Now I am glad that God is giving me a glimpse into His truth. With that comes persecution for His sake. It is all good, if the persecution didn't come, a red light should go off indicating that we weren't lining for Jesus. Your in my prayers brother.
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Roy Martin

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 11:07:15 PM »

Hi Roy C.
I have been keeping up with what your doing and have done. I see the love in the way you have approached it. You set a good example.
 I know how you feel. You are in my prayers as well.
Thank you
Roy.

Peace
Roy M.
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Roy Martin

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 11:09:32 PM »

Excellent scriptures Marques. Thanks.

Peace
Roy M
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Marlene

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 02:25:09 AM »

Marques, those are great scriptures. But, it is harder to follow then it is to read them. I can deal better with outsiders then I can from family members. I know it is because we love them so much and it hurts. I keep praying to God to help me deal with this better. I have been doing better with that tongue of mine. I figure keep my thoughts to myself. Two wrongs don't make a right. It is an everyday battle because we never know when the attacks are coming or how.

I know, it is all God teaching me to have mercy and to forgive. Its a part of making me in his image. I just get sick of myself. I don't like going back for the dog vomit. I sure cannot wait for the time that those memories do not come back to haunt me. It is a daily battle. I don't know about for anyone else. But, I will not lie and say I am there yet. I just asked God to erase the memories

In His Love,
Marlene
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aqrinc

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 02:59:30 AM »


Hi Marlene,

I am there, Right Where You Are. We have been appointed to this for a very great reason:

Ecc 1:13 (CLV)
I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens:it is an experience of evil Elohim has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.

Ecc 4:8 (CLV)
There was one person, but there was no second; There even was no son or brother for him; Also there was no end to all his toil, Yet his eyes were not satisfied with his riches. Then he said, For whom am I toiling And making my soul lack good? This too is vanity, and it is an experience of evil."

george. :)

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G. Driggs

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Re: Having animosity
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 05:33:04 PM »

Very interesting and timely topic Roy M. It became apparent to me (yesterday in fact) that I have this animosity toward the Babylon that I came from. There was a commotion on our VHF radio between Christians in my town, seems everyone was calling everyone else a hypocrite, and I felt this hate welling up in me, thinking to myself, they are all hypocrites. I started feeling proud and even boasted to my wife that "I know the truth." As if I was better than them. So thanks for bringing this up, no more jokes from me about Babylon. Forgive me if I offended anyone.

Peace, G.Driggs
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