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apostles?
Vangie:
Might be a new Czar position opening up in charge of appointments. ::) ;D ;D ;)
aqrinc:
bibleman,
I can find where GOD Appointed Some Apostles, none where anyone today is commissioned to do so, will keep searching for answers.
1Co 12:28
And God set some in the church, firstly, apostles; secondly, prophets; thirdly, teachers, then works of power, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, kinds of languages.
Eph 4:11
And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
Eph 4:12
for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
george.
24 Grams:
The way I see it there are no modern day apostles (there were only twelve) and quite frankly there is no need for any. The apostles were there to preach the word of God to people who had never heard...and back then most people had never even heard of Christ. Now, though we have the Bible and many people know about religion so it is different. The one's that are spiritually discerned are God's chosen Elect and that is all....IMO.
Oh and John the Baptist was the last Prophet...Prophets were to make way for the Messiah. No?
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: 24 Grams on July 14, 2009, 05:22:22 PM ---Oh and John the Baptist was the last Prophet...Prophets were to make way for the Messiah. No?
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Yes, that's included, but overall prophets are to speak/testify of the Lord and of His Will for the edification of the Saints.
Rom 12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us [Paul & other prophets after Christ had risen], whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1 Cor 12:8-10 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy...
Hope that helps,
Marques
Samson:
--- Quote from: Kat on July 14, 2009, 10:38:05 AM ---
Hi Bible man,
My question would be; who is there to appoint one as an apostle today? We know that the original Apostles were given their position by Christ Himself and they could have appoint others as apostles with authority I would think too. But as of today who is there to appoint one as such and how would we look on someone who self-appointed themselves? Just the way I am looking at this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Hi Bibleman,
My thoughts sorta coincide with Kat's, Jesus appointed the original Apostles, later appointed Paul as an
Apostle to the nations and as explained earlier, Apostle means: " One Sent Forth." Also in some Scriptural examples,
Paul mentions certain Apostles in a bad light, at least towards ones claiming to be Apostles. " For I consider that I
have not in a single thing proved inferior to your Superfine Apostles." 2Cor.11:5(NWT) and " Now what I am doing I
will still do, that I may cut off the pretext from those who are wanting a pretext for being found equal to us in the
office of which they boast. For such men are false Apostles, deceitfull workers, transforming themselves into Apostles
of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an Angel of light." 2Cor.11:12-14(NWT).
So, with the above considered and specific names mentioned in Scripture of any other True Apostles,
one would want to, at least have some caution towards those today claiming to be Apostles. All of the above
doesn't imply there couldn't be, just to proceed with caution.
Kind Regards, Samson.
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