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apostles?
aqrinc:
bibleman,
This Scripture may be the answer you are looking for, I will keep looking for and studying this question.
Since the admonition is for all the Church in this age, there does not appear to be any more Apostles appointed.
Eph 2:20 (MKJV)
and are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone,
Rev 2:2 (MKJV)
I know your works and your labor and your patience, and how you cannot bear those who are evil. And you tried those pretending to be apostles, and are not, and have found them liars.
Rev 21:14 (MKJV)
And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
george. :)
Marky Mark:
Mark 3
13 And He is ascending into the mountain and is calling to Him whom He would, and they came away to Him.
14 And He makes twelve, whom He also names apostles, that they may be with Him, and that He may be commissioning them to herald,
15 and to have authority to cure diseases, and to cast out demons.
16 And He makes the twelve,
I would have to believe that there were no more apostles according to what these verses indicate. Unless I am mistaken, Jesus has not commissioned anyone outside of the twelve.
Except Paul.
Peace...Mark
PreechaBoi:
--- Quote from: 24 Grams on July 14, 2009, 05:22:22 PM --- Oh and John the Baptist was the last Prophet...Prophets were to make way for the Messiah. No?
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so then what was meant by "and WHEN he ascended up on high he gave gifts unto men, ...including prophets in that list?... if john the baptist was the last prophet (which he wasn't according to acts 21:10) then how could christ have given it to John if he hadnt ascended up on high.
these gifts , were they not given after the resurrection of Jesus? so then these five gifts with the Prophet included are in some way different from the prophets of old no?
by the way... i understand thus far that the office of Apostle must be given by Christ himself as in the case even with Paul, However Jesus didn't proclaim him to anyone, Paul had to show them who he was by the word and revelation, which they basically just had to "by faith" believe he was telling the truth.... am i way off here?
If that's true, can Jesus not appoint and send people today for a purpose?
aqrinc:
(Prophets) Prophesying in the last day, is one of the Gifts Of The Spirit, below are two of many Scripture witnesses to this. Witnesses highlighted in maroon bold.
Joel 2:28-29 (MKJV)
28 And it shall be afterward, I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy; your old men shall dream dreams; your young men shall see visions.
29 And also I will pour out My Spirit on the slaves and on the slave women in those days.
Act 2: 16-21 (MKJV)
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel:
17 "And it shall be in the last days, says God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And in those days I will pour out My Spirit upon My slaves and My slave women, and they shall prophesy.
19 And I will give wonders in the heaven above, and miracles on the earth below, blood and fire and vapor of smoke.
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before that great and glorious Day of the Lord.
21 And it shall be that everyone who shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Paul was not, and could not be his own witness of his appointment as an Apostle. Scripture teaches that by the mouth of two or three witnesses must any Scriptural Truth be established. Sometimes we need to work harder to find the witnesses, and remember that The Sum Of GOD'S Word Is Truth; and no Prophesy Of The Scriptures can be its own interpretation.
Act 9:
1 And Saul, still breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest
2 and asked letters from him to Damascus to the synagogues; so that if he found any of the Way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.
3 But in going, it happened as he drew near to Damascus, even suddenly a light from the heaven shone around him.
4 And he fell to the earth and heard a voice saying to him, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?
5 And he said, Who are you, lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom you persecute. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.
6 And trembling and astonished, he said, Lord, what will You have me to do? And the Lord said to him, Arise and go into the city, and you shall be told what you must do.
7 And the men who journeyed with him stood speechless, indeed hearing a voice but seeing no one.
8 And Saul was lifted up from the earth, his eyes were opened, but he saw no one. But they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus.
9 And he was three days not seeing, and did not eat or drink.
10 And there was a certain disciple in Damascus named Ananias. And the Lord said to him in a vision, Ananias! And he said, Behold me, Lord.
11 And the Lord said to him, Arise and go into the street which is called Straight and inquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus. For behold, he is praying,
12 and has seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in and putting his hand on him so that he might receive his sight.
13 And Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard from many of this man, how many evil things he has done to Your saints at Jerusalem.
14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your Name.
15 But the Lord said to him, Go! For this one is a chosen vessel to Me, to bear My name before nations and kings and the sons of Israel.
16 For I will show him what great things he must suffer for My name's sake.
17 And Ananias went and entered into the house. And putting his hands on him, he said, Brother Saul, the Lord, Jesus, who appeared to you in the way in which you came, has sent me to you that you might see and be filled with the Holy Spirit.
george :)
daywalker:
--- Quote from: bible man on July 12, 2009, 02:39:46 AM ---Are there any modern day apostles?
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If there are any true Apostles or Prophets today, this is how we'd find them:
Mat 20:25 Now Jesus, calling them to Him, said, "You are aware that the chiefs of the nations are lording it over them, and the great are coercing them.
26 NOT THUS IS IT TO BE AMONG YOU. But whosoever may be wanting to become great among you, let him be your servant,
27 and whoever may be wanting to be foremost among you, let him be your slave,
28 even as the Son of Mankind came, not to be served, but to serve, and to give His soul a ransom for many."
On 2nd thought, if they are truly living by this commandment, then it would be next to impossible to find them...
Daywalker 8)
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