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apostles?
Marlene:
Daywalker, Amen, to that. I have seen all of those kind that love to serve themself. I have very seldom seen any of them who live by those commandments.
But, I have seen a modern day teacher who loves to serve the people even while on his death bed. Ray L. Smith Yes and I still seldom see any more living like this.
God does have a choosen few who lights will shine.
In His Love,
Marlene
daywalker:
--- Quote from: Marlene on July 16, 2009, 03:13:12 PM ---Daywalker, Amen, to that. I have seen all of those kind that love to serve themself. I have very seldom seen any of them who live by those commandments.
But, I have seen a modern day teacher who loves to serve the people even while on his death bed. Ray L. Smith Yes and I still seldom see any more living like this.
God does have a choosen few who lights will shine.
In His Love,
Marlene
--- End quote ---
Very true, Marlene!
I complain to God when I have a stomach ache, or even a sunburn. Ray, on the other hand, has endured unspeakable pains, yet he remains loyal through it all--an amazing example for us to follow. If I had even half the sufferings as Ray does, right now, my faith may be crushed... Tis proof that Ray's faith is strong, and I have a llloooonnnngggg ways to go...
...but thank God for "grace"! ;D :D
- Daywalker 8)
believerx:
--- Quote from: Arion on July 12, 2009, 10:39:35 AM ---One thing I'm sure of is that those out there that call themselves apostles and prophets....aren't!! ::)
--- End quote ---
wow!YOU ARE SURE,HUH?
guess who isn't one ( an apostle) by your standard??:
1.Romans 1:1
Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
2. Romans 1:5
through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
3. Romans 11:13
But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
4. 1 Corinthians 1:1
Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
5. 1 Corinthians 4:9 (my personal favorite)
For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.
6.1 Corinthians 9:1
[ Paul's Use of Liberty ] Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord?
1 Corinthians 9:2
If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:9
For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
2 Corinthians 1:1
] Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia:
2 Corinthians 11:1
[ Paul Defends His Apostleship ] I wish that you would bear with me in a little foolishness; but indeed you are bearing with me.
2 Corinthians 11:5
For I consider myself not in the least inferior to the most eminent apostles.
2 Corinthians 12:11
I have become foolish; you yourselves compelled me Actually I should have been commended by you, for in no respect was I inferior to the most eminent apostles, even though I am a nobody.
Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle ( not sent from men nor through the agency of man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead),
Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are at Ephesus and who are faithful in Christ Jesus:
Colossians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,
1 Thessalonians 2:6
nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, even though as apostles of Christ we might have asserted our authority.
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 2:7
For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle ( I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
# 2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, according to the promise of life in Christ Jesus,
# 2 Timothy 1:11
for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle and a teacher.
# Titus 1:1
Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness,
BY MY COUNT THAT MAKES 21 DIRECT REFERENCES IN ONLY 10 LETTERS!
MUST I CONTINUE - because i did not include a plethora of indirect references?
here is where you err GREATLY! it is in fact where ALL err greatly because God says this is how they will:
ecc 1:
9That which has been is that which will be,
And that which has been done is that which will be done.
So there is nothing new under the sun.
10Is there anything of which one might say,
"See this, it is new"?
Already it has existed for ages
Which were before us.
11There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
of earlier things;
And also of the later things which will occur,
There will be for them
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
Among those who will come later still.
OF COURSE THERE ARE APOSTLES NOW
b x
daywalker:
believerx,
I think Arion was referring to the "false apostles" that Jesus and His Apostles warned us about... ???
Matthew 7:15: Take heed of those false prophets who are coming to you in the apparel of sheep, yet inside they are rapacious wolves.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall be coming in My name, saying, 'I [Jesus] am the Christ!' and shall be deceiving many.
II Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, fraudulent workers, being transfigured into apostles of Christ.
II Peter 2:1 Yet there came to be false prophets also among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers who will be smuggling in destructive sects, even disowning the Owner Who buys them, bringing on themselves swift destruction."
2 And many will be following out their wantonness, because of whom the glory of the truth will be calumniated,
3 and in greed, with suave words, they will traffic in you, whose judgment of old is not idling, and their destruction is not nodding
- Daywalker 8)
--- Quote from: believerx on July 24, 2009, 12:18:43 AM ---
--- Quote from: Arion on July 12, 2009, 10:39:35 AM ---One thing I'm sure of is that those out there that call themselves apostles and prophets....aren't!! ::)
--- End quote ---
wow!YOU ARE SURE,HUH?
guess who isn't one ( an apostle) by your standard??:
1.Romans 1:1
Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God,
2. Romans 1:5
through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith among all the Gentiles for His name's sake,
3. Romans 11:13
But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
4. 1 Corinthians 1:1
Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,
5. 1 Corinthians 4:9 (my personal favorite)
For, I think, God has exhibited us apostles last of all, as men condemned to death; because we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to men.
6.1 Corinthians 9:1
[ Paul's Use of Liberty ] Am I not free? Am I not an apostle? Have I not seen Jesus our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord?
1 Corinthians 9:2
If to others I am not an apostle, at least I am to you; for you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:9
For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
2 Corinthians 1:1
] Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout Achaia:
2 Corinthians 11:1
[ Paul Defends His Apostleship ] I wish that you would bear with me in a little foolishness; but indeed you are bearing with me.
2 Corinthians 11:5
For I consider myself not in the least inferior to the most eminent apostles.
2 Corinthians 12:11
I have become foolish; you yourselves compelled me Actually I should have been commended by you, for in no respect was I inferior to the most eminent apostles, even though I am a nobody.
Galatians 1:1
Paul, an apostle ( not sent from men nor through the agency of man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead),
Ephesians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, To the saints who are at Ephesus and who are faithful in Christ Jesus:
Colossians 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother,
1 Thessalonians 2:6
nor did we seek glory from men, either from you or from others, even though as apostles of Christ we might have asserted our authority.
1 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus according to the commandment of God our Savior, and of Christ Jesus, who is our hope,
1 Timothy 2:7
For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle ( I am telling the truth, I am not lying) as a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
# 2 Timothy 1:1
Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, according to the promise of life in Christ Jesus,
# 2 Timothy 1:11
for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle and a teacher.
# Titus 1:1
Paul, a bond-servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the faith of those chosen of God and the knowledge of the truth which is according to godliness,
BY MY COUNT THAT MAKES 21 DIRECT REFERENCES IN ONLY 10 LETTERS!
MUST I CONTINUE - because i did not include a plethora of indirect references?
here is where you err GREATLY! it is in fact where ALL err greatly because God says this is how they will:
ecc 1:
9That which has been is that which will be,
And that which has been done is that which will be done.
So there is nothing new under the sun.
10Is there anything of which one might say,
"See this, it is new"?
Already it has existed for ages
Which were before us.
11There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
There is no remembrance
of earlier things;
And also of the later things which will occur,
There will be for them
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
no remembrance
Among those who will come later still.
OF COURSE THERE ARE APOSTLES NOW
b x
--- End quote ---
kenny:
I was given a letter (christaindom), I carried it(christaindom) with intent to harm those that believed (christaindom), I was on the road (christaindom), I was kicking against the goads(christaindom), i was made blind (christaindom), I fell away (christaindom)!
Now I can see (Christ).
I Follow Christ,
Kenny-Bar-Jesus
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