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apostles?
smeacham:
--- Quote from: streetfire on July 24, 2009, 09:32:13 PM ---I was given a letter (christaindom), I carried it(christaindom) with intent to harm those that believed (christaindom), I was on the road (christaindom), I was kicking against the goads(christaindom), i was made blind (christaindom), I fell away (christaindom)!
Now I can see (Christ).
I Follow Christ,
Kenny-Bar-Jesus
APOSTLE
--- End quote ---
After reading and rereading this about a dozen times...wow. Now to the scriptures to read it for myself!
Steve
believerx:
daywalker said:
believerx,
I think Arion was referring to the "false apostles" that Jesus and His Apostles warned us about... ???
Matthew 7:15: Take heed of those false prophets who are coming to you in the apparel of sheep, yet inside they are rapacious wolves.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall be coming in My name, saying, 'I [Jesus] am the Christ!' and shall be deceiving many.
II Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, fraudulent workers, being transfigured into apostles of Christ.
II Peter 2:1 Yet there came to be false prophets also among the people, as among you also there will be false teachers who will be smuggling in destructive sects, even disowning the Owner Who buys them, bringing on themselves swift destruction."
2 And many will be following out their wantonness, because of whom the glory of the truth will be calumniated,
3 and in greed, with suave words, they will traffic in you, whose judgment of old is not idling, and their destruction is not nodding
- Daywalker 8)
daywalker, also said this:
If there are any true Apostles or Prophets today, this is how we'd find them:
bx says:
daywalker and arion,
there are both - the ratio is 10,000 false to a few true apostles( FATHERS). and YOU DONT FIND THEM, if you are fortunate AND
RECEPTIVE THEY FIND YOU - because Jesus sends them to you!
ro 10:
13for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
14How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
15How will they preach unless they are sent?
Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!"
but the majority of people to whom they are sent respond in only this manner:
do you think apostles( sent ones) evoke kind responses? or hostility?
the scripture is plain:
matt:
" Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of
them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your
synagogues, and persecute from city to city,
luke:
49"For this reason also the wisdom of God said, 'I will send to them prophets
and apostles, and some of them they will kill and some they will persecute,
50so that the blood of all the prophets, shed since the foundation of the
world, may be charged against this generation,
what makes anyone think this generation is any more receptive to the gospel than
all those preceding it? there is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN...
you dont have the ability to receive it if you dont enter by the gate. you are
not allowed to make up your own rules.
all of the scriptures regarding those whom Christ sends are veiled references about apostles...
but-I've said too much.....
b x A.K.A -michaiah ( always outnumbered- never wrong)
aqrinc:
Dan 12: 1-13 (CLV)
1 In that era shall stand up Michael, the great chief, standing over the sons of your people. Then comes to be an era of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation on the earth, till that era. Now in that era your people shall escape--all those found written in the scroll."
2 From those sleeping in the soil of the ground many shall awake, these to eonian life and these to reproach for eonian repulsion."
3 The intelligent shall warn as the warning of the atmosphere, and those justifying many are as the stars for the eon and further."
4 Now you Daniel, stop up the words and seal the scroll till the era of the end, when many will swerve as evil will increase."
5 I, Daniel--I see, and behold, two others are standing, one on the near bank of the waterway and one on the far bank of the waterway."
6 I am saying to the man clothed in linen who is above the waters of the waterway, "Till when is the end of the marvels of which you speak, and this cleansing?
7 I am hearing the man clothed in linen who is above the waters of the waterway, "Till the era of the end.Then he is holding high his right and his left hands to the heavens and is swearing by Him Who is living for the eon, that it is for an appointed time, two appointed times and half an appointed time. And as is concluded the shattering of the hand of the holy people, concluding are all these things."
8 I hear, yet I am not understanding. Hence I am saying, "My lord, what is there after these things?
9 Then he is saying, "Go, Daniel, for stopped up and sealed are the words till the era of the end."
10 Many will purify and whiten themselves and be refined; yet the wicked will be wicked. None of all the wicked shall understand; yet the intelligent are understanding.
11 From the era when the continuous ritual is taken away, and to the setting of the abomination of desolation, is a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
12 Happy is he who will tarry and attain to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days!
13 Now you, go on to the end, and you shall rest and stand up for your lot at the end of the days."
george. :)
daywalker:
Hello believerx,
I haven't heard much from you on the forums, so perhaps I don't understand your personality yet. But you are coming off a little arrogant in your posts. It sounds like you're trying to 'teach' and that you feel you know so much more than others here--maybe you do, but I think your approach is a little off.
You ended your last post with:
"b x A.K.A -michaiah ( always outnumbered- never wrong)"
So you're never wrong?
Really?
Are you sure you want to make a claim like that?
Again, maybe I just don't understand your personality yet. But for the record your post taught me nothing new. Of course, the apostles of Christ are persecuted and hated by most the world. Most don't want the Truth, they want to believe what they wish.
But I'll tell you one thing: those who 'boast' that they are great apostles, are the ones we are warned to stay away from.
May God guide you,
Daywalker. 8)
lilitalienboi16:
Yup, believers post don't sit well with my spirit.
I don't post much myself and i don't know much, but i've always trust God's spirit to indicate to me when something aint right. All i gotta say is i got a bad vibe from believersx post.
God bless,
Alex
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