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bluzman:
"Just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly"

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: AK4 on July 28, 2009, 01:39:26 PM ---
Has anyone else seen a parable inside the parable that theyve seen?


--- End quote ---

I must have missed this one earlier....... Yes there certainly are parables within parables, as well as riddles that must be scrutinized and studied, sometimes though (and I like these the best) we find new meanings in familiar verses that His Spirit has opened up to us.

Here is one that I find compelling, and it also provides more evidence that salvation is not a "one shot deal" where one is lost forever if not among those called and chosen in this age.

Remember these familiar verses?

Mat 24:22  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake1223, those days shall be shortened.

Mar 13:20  And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake,1223, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

G1223
διά
dia
dee-ah'
A primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; through (in very wide applications, local, causal or occasional). In composition it retains the same general import: - after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) . . . fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, X though, through (-out), to, wherefore, with (-in). In composition it retains the same general import.

Rather than "for the elect's sake" it appears it really should be saying "through the elect" as in "through the elect those days were shortened."

We know the elect will hold key positions in bringing salvation (through Christ) to the rest of humanity.

Obadiah 1:21  And saviors shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD's.

Hebrews 11:40  God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
 
Looking at the Greek word dia could these verses have been clearer in the translation, actually doesn't the present translation tend to obscure the real (hidden) truth? Although there is merit in the translation the way it written knowing the original and primary definition of the Greek word adds depth to it.

Peace,

Joe

Ninny:
Hey, yes, Joe! That makes a LOT of sense!
"through the elect" I have puzzled over that verse a lot! :D
Kathy ;)

OBrenda:
Joe,

That filled me with WONDER and AWE!
I just can't imagine being apart of this process...

 :o
Brenda

Kat:

Hi Joe,

As I was thinking about this in the beginning of this chapter in Matt. the disciples had ask Jesus "what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"

Mat 24:3  As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?"

So now am thinking that down in verse 22 isn't Christ still talking about the end of this present age that the days will be shortened?

Mat 24:22 "And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. 

What do you think, just wondering about that?

mercy, peace andlove
Kat

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