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bible man:
We have a hot topic brewing on our radio show,the question/challenge is rather or not we should use the name Jesus as opposed to the original hebrew Yesh/Yaw I would like to here from our forum asap THANKS!!!!
aqrinc:
Hi bibleman,
Try this thread for your info.
http://bible-truths.com/email4.htm#pronounce
Ever since I began looking for the truth, I had wondered about the Consistency of Various Words, Names and Locations through out Bible. Thanks to your site (which is the first I ran into) I found out that it's bad (or deceitful) scholarship to translate Aion as eternity, and to use various words (such as spirit and soul) interchangeably.
But now with those out of the way, I come an issue (of sorts).
I have, through a search, found a couple of Webster's most proper names for most (not all) Bible Prophets, Apostles and The name for Jesus and God (who is sometimes called Jehovah).
Should I now (seeing that I have a good Idea of what God and Jesus' name is) continue to use these translated words? or Should I use the Hebrew Name?
While were on the topic of consistency, How Does Rotherham and Concordant Render their Names?
To make a rather long story short, is it okay that I use these "translated" Names in Prayer? or should I use the Names of The Hebrew and Greek.
I don't mean to sound sarcastic, rude, impolite and such is not intended.
Ps: yes I understand the response of your last letter dealing with Faith and how it's impossible to permanently lose grace.
[Ray Replies]
Jeff it is good to know the MEANING of Greek and Hebrew names, but when it comes to how one pronounces them, that is sheer folly. I have groups virtually make a NEW RELIGION out of how we pronounce and spell the names and titles of Jesus and His Father.
Translating "aions" into English "eternities" COMPLETELY changes the meaning of the original word. Calling Jesus by His Greek, Latin, or whatever, as opposed to how His name is pronounced in Hebrew proves NOTHING. And certainly is NOT a sign of spirituality. Besides most of the population of the world who is familiar with the KJV wouldn't even know who you are talking about. Paul became ALL things to ALL people that he might gain some.
We can even call God the Father "Pappa" if we want to, so give me a break!
Jeff, don't ever let people make you feel spiritually inferior to themselves through the use of supposed higher knowledge. If they are shaming you, then SHAME ON THEM!
God be with you.
Sincerely,
Ray
george. :)
Dave in Tenn:
Another email from the front page.
Hi Ray,
...My question is, what is your understanding of our creator's actual name and the name of his son. YHWH? Yeshua? My apologies if the answer is already on your page somewhere.
Keep the truth coming brother.
Jeff
[Ray Replies]
Dear Jeff:
FACTS:
The New Testament was written and preserved in GREEK manuscripts.
GOD said through HIS ANGEL, that HIS SON's Name should be called: "Jesus" [Gk: "Iesous"].
All of the Apostles called God's Son, their Lord, JESUS, the Christ.
God calls His Son, "My SON."
Jesus calls His God, "My FATHER."
Now those are the facts of the New Testament. Hundreds of thousands of idol worshippers call what I have just presented to you, HERESY. No, this is not heresy, but the facts of Scriptures.
God be with you,
Ray
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My answer: If I were to start, in casual reference, referring to Jesus by His Hebrew name, I would either feel silly or sanctimonious. Neither of those is 'spiritual', with sanctimonious being the more dangerous.
aqrinc:
And another: http://bible-truths.com/email11.htm#Yahshua
I like your site but I was wondering why you continue to use the name of Jesus? What is your view on the name of Yahshua as the Messiah and Yahweh (YHWH) as the name of God?
I strive to know Them on a more personal basis. I don't see how Jesus could have been the name God gave Him. When Yahshua said I come in the name of the Father he meant it. The letter J was the last letter to be included in the alphabet (about 1500 ad).
If there is no other name under heaven by which you may be saved, we should get it right. He also said He gave His Son a name above all other names. The info is in any dictionary or encyclopedia. Jesus is a Greek name. Why would Hebrew speaking parents in a Hebrew speaking land give there son a Greek name? Just curious, Eric
[Ray Replies]
Dear Eric:
Thank you for your email and comments.
I just refuse to get caught up in all this "Sacred Name Society" business.
You used the word, "Messiah" which is an Hebrew word. But the New Testament uses the word "Messia" which is the Greek form of the Hebrew, "messiah." Should we use and speak Greek or Hebrew. But "messiah" means "anointed." "Christ" also means "anointed." Which should we use, Messia or Christ? Should we call our Lord, Yahshua, Messia or Jesus Christ?
And there we have that word "Lord." In the Greek, Lord is "kurios" and it means supreme in authority or Lord. But in Hebrew, Lord is "Yehovah" and it means self-existent, the Jewish national name of God. But in Psalm 113:1 we read,
"Praise ye the Lord, Praise, O ye servants of the Lord, praise the NAME OF THE LORD."
But "Lord" is "Yehovah/Yehwah/Jehovah" in Hebrew, yet you say "Yahweh is the NAME OF GOD" whereas the Scripture says "Praise the name OF the Lord," not "Praise the NAME LORD." Furthermore, Jehovah (YHWH) IS JESUS CHRIST, not God the Father!
Jesus also said that, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Jesus Christ is the "I AM" of the Old Testament. Well, yes, of course, no man has ever seen God the Father, but Moses and others did see and hear "I AM" and "Jehovah." And God told Moses that "I AM" was His name. He told Moses to tell the Children of Israel that God's name is, "I AM."
And so, even those who make a virtual religion out of this Sacred name business have not a clue as that they are talking about.
It is not wrong to call our Lord, "Jesus Christ." Furthermore, the whole world knows Him as Jesus Christ, and they are already confused enough about religion and the Scriptures, that I don't think we need to add one more obstacle to their understanding.
God be with you,
Ray
george.
Akira329:
Good Post George!
Antaiwan
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