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OBrenda:
I sure appreciated this Topic!
:)
daywalker:
I, for one, submit that we here at BT have much better things to discuss than by what name we should call our Lord. Heck,
sometimes I just look up and say, "Yo, dude, we gotta talk..." [Yes, yes, typical 'Californian', I know...]
Sorry, but this is a futile debate that always goes nowhere.
Daywalker. 8)
PS: Thanks for posting that email from Ray, George, that's one of my personal favs. Ray's personality really shines through in it... :D
bible man:
Hey dude? Naw Ill stick with Father,God lol!!!!
daywalker:
Well, if you really wanna get down to the technical details, we can't call Him "father" or "god" or "Jesus" or "daddy" or "I AM" because these are all English translations of what was actually "written" and "spoken" in the Original languages. So maybe we should all learn to speak Hebrew and Greek?
MY POINT was, this debate is futile. So many times when I used to go to church, I'd hear about how Christians get so offended when someone refers to God as "The Higher Power" or "Supreme Being" or "the Great Architect", etc. They treat the title "God" as if this is His ACTUAL NAME, and to call Him something else is "blasphemy".
LOOK: God knows your heart and your mind and your intent and EVERYTHING about you. So if one thinks that sticking to "God" or "Father" or "I AM" makes them holier and purer in the eyes of God then I remind them of what Christ said,
"With their lips they worship Me, but their hearts are far from Me"
Again, we got better things to discuss here at BT then by what name we should call GOD.
Over & Out,
Daywalker. 8)
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I, for one, submit that we here at BT have much better things to discuss than by what name we should call our Lord. Heck,
sometimes I just look up and say, "Yo, dude, we gotta talk..." [Yes, yes, typical 'Californian', I know...]
Sorry, but this is a futile debate that always goes nowhere.
Daywalker. 8)
PS: Thanks for posting that email from Ray, George, that's one of my personal favs. Ray's personality really shines through in it... :D
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Maybe its just me Chris but I feel that to honor Jesus for the Respect and Praise in which He so justly deserves also means calling our Lord and Savior His God given title of I AM, Jesus,Jehovah,Yehwah,not something like "hey dude". Hope this helps.
http://bible-truths.com/email11.htm#Yahshua
Dear Eric:
Thank you for your email and comments.
I just refuse to get caught up in all this "Sacred Name Society" business.
You used the word, "Messiah" which is an Hebrew word. But the New Testament uses the word "Messia" which is the Greek form of the Hebrew, "messiah." Should we use and speak Greek or Hebrew. But "messiah" means "anointed." "Christ" also means "anointed." Which should we use, Messia or Christ? Should we call our Lord, Yahshua, Messia or Jesus Christ?
And there we have that word "Lord." In the Greek, Lord is "kurios" and it means supreme in authority or Lord. But in Hebrew, Lord is "Yehovah" and it means self-existent, the Jewish national name of God. But in Psalm 113:1 we read,
"Praise ye the Lord, Praise, O ye servants of the Lord, praise the NAME OF THE LORD."
But "Lord" is "Yehovah/Yehwah/Jehovah" in Hebrew, yet you say "Yahweh is the NAME OF GOD" whereas the Scripture says "Praise the name OF the Lord," not "Praise the NAME LORD." Furthermore, Jehovah (YHWH) IS JESUS CHRIST, not God the Father!
Jesus also said that, "Before Abraham was, I AM." Jesus Christ is the "I AM" of the Old Testament. Well, yes, of course, no man has ever seen God the Father, but Moses and others did see and hear "I AM" and "Jehovah." And God told Moses that "I AM" was His name. He told Moses to tell the Children of Israel that God's name is, "I AM."
And so, even those who make a virtual religion out of this Sacred name business have not a clue as that they are talking about.
It is not wrong to call our Lord, "Jesus Christ." Furthermore, the whole world knows Him as Jesus Christ, and they are already confused enough about religion and the Scriptures, that I don't think we need to add one more obstacle to their understanding.
God be with you,
Ray
Peace...Mark
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OBrenda:
Daywalker,
Forgive me I may have missed something here, I didn't see any debating going on. :-\
Bibleman did say there was a debate on the radio show, and asked for comments on this subject.
I saw some very insightful posts of Ray's emails on the subject.
I was encouraged and strengthened in my convictions, that are very similar to yours.
What ever the subject, the carnal nature can turn every single piece of God's message, into a way to feel superior to others.
It's admirable that you don't want to engage in debates. It truly is a waste of time.
Peace,
Brenda
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