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Witnesses and missionaries to Babylon?
daywalker:
--- Quote from: newoldstock on July 28, 2009, 12:17:26 PM ---Great Commission fit in?
Mat 28:18 Then Jesus came up and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Mat 28:19 Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age." ISV
God draws us to himself through the Holy Spirit and he chooses us, but Jesus commands us to proclaim him to all people everywhere and to baptise, to teach them to obey Him, and bring them into the sheepfold. How will they know if we don't tell them? At what point do we know that we are casting our pearls before swine?
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Answer: When they bite you; that's how you know. :o ;D
There are many ways to 'spread the truth'. Ray does this through his site. I have a hubpage http://hubpages.com/profile/babylon_is_fallen. A few others here do as well. And still others are on Facebook or Myspace, etc. You don't need to continue to attend a local church to do this. In fact, we are specifically commanded to 'come out'.
We all here understand your thoughts. When I first started reading Ray's teachings, I wanted to tell everyone. But I soon found out that this was not the proper way to go, as I got put on my butt real quick. The Disciples spent 3 1/2 years with Christ before they were converted. Saul spent 3 years in study, prayer and meditation before he was ready to become the Apostle Paul.
Modern day Christians are so concerned with 'saving the world', they have lost the meaning of being 'saved'. They don't know what 'salvation' is. How can we 'save the world', unless we first know how to 'save ourselves'?
May God Guide You,
- Daywalker. 8)
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: newoldstock on July 28, 2009, 12:17:26 PM ---Great Commission fit in?
Mat 28:18 Then Jesus came up and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Mat 28:19 Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age." ISV
God draws us to himself through the Holy Spirit and he chooses us, but Jesus commands us to proclaim him to all people everywhere and to baptise, to teach them to obey Him, and bring them into the sheepfold. How will they know if we don't tell them? At what point do we know that we are casting our pearls before swine?
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Just an FYI on 'The Great Commission' (if anyone was curious) from Lake of Fire part 5 (http://bible-truths.com/lake5.html):
Jesus gave a parable about a father who commissioned one of his sons to do a job. The son said he would do what his father commissioned. However, he lied and did not do what his father commissioned. Jesus told those Pharisees that harlots would enter the kingdom before someone with an attitude like that, (Matt. 21:28-31)! Are we to believe that the very Son of God Himself is no better than this failing servant in Christ’s own parable?
What will it take before we really BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES? We hear a great deal these days about "THE GREAT COMMISSION," (as though those talking about it have a clue as to what it is). Teaching the gospel is certainly commanded by our Lord, but the greatest thing about the gospel is never taught by most evangelists. That Jesus Christ died to save a small fraction of sinners is only a small fraction of the gospel. And the gospel is not the Great Commission. Would you like to know what The Great Commission really is? Okay, here it is: "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent [Gk: apostello, to send out on a mission—commission] TO BE THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD" (I John 4:14)! See Second Witness in John 3:17. Now if anyone knows of a GREATER mission or commission than this, I am sure we would all like to know what it is?
Marques
newoldstock:
humor and truth in this answer! :)
Answer: When they bite you; that's how you know. :o ;D
Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: newoldstock on July 28, 2009, 12:17:26 PM ---Great Commission fit in?
Mat 28:18 Then Jesus came up and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Mat 28:19 Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you each and every day until the end of the age." ISV
God draws us to himself through the Holy Spirit and he chooses us, but Jesus commands us to proclaim him to all people everywhere and to baptise, to teach them to obey Him, and bring them into the sheepfold. How will they know if we don't tell them? At what point do we know that we are casting our pearls before swine?
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SPURIOUS PASSAGES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
Matt. 28:19
therefore
Peace...Mark
Also this email to Ray.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,328.0.html
Dear Emmanuel:
Not to sound cute, Emmanuel, but I don't have a church. I am a member of GOD'S CHURCH, and it is a spiritual organism, not a physical building with man-made creeds.
Paul stopped baptizing altogether after he learned that no physical ritual will make anyone spiritual. We are baptized in spirit, not water; we are circumcised in spirit, not in the flesh; we partake of Christ's body not in the physical with bread, but in the spirit, etc.
Matt. 28:19--"...baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit....:" IS NOT SCRIPTURE. That part of a verse was inserted by the Catholic Church hundreds of years after the apostles.
God be with you,
Ray
newoldstock:
this statement of the adding to the word of God or glossing as it is sometimes referred to? I have never heard this before concerning this verse. Thanks, Jim.
"Matt. 28:19--"...baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit....:" IS NOT SCRIPTURE. That part of a verse was inserted by the Catholic Church hundreds of years after the apostles."
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