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lilitalienboi16:

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--- Quote from: Daniel ---The e-mail to me seems like a hoax in itself. I don't perceive it to be geniune myself. I think its as one "pretending to be" crazy truthfully.

Its the first thing that came into my mind concerning it.

Peace

Daniel
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I thought it was a legit email by an actual "born again" Christian. Maybe that's just me, but that's what came to my mind. Typical Christian attitude.
Either believe in hell, or end up in hell.

That's Christianity's new slogan: In hell we trust.
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rofl "In hell we trust." HAHAHA im sorry that one made me crack up

To me this email seems legit also, i mean there are some true believers in Convert or burn in hell method.

orion77:
We are all in agreement on this thread. I think seeing the e-mails Ray receives is important, it allows us to see the many different views people have concerning the Word of God.

The responses from people who have a strong belief in a literal hell are easy to see that they have not the love of the truth in them. Their words are full of hatred, contempt and very judgmental. They see themselves doing Gods service by condemning, accusing and wishing an eternal torment on another one of Gods creation.

It is not so much as attempting to do to them what they do to us. That is not in my mind to do such things. From reading the bible and a look in the history of mankind, it can easily be seen that Gods name has been falsely accused, slandered, misapplied, thought evil of, and used by carnally minded men to gain money, fame, power over another.

The whole point is, why has God allowed this to happen and why does God permit them to do the same to us? Look around and we can see. When we talk the truth of God, what will they do to us? Is it any different today than it was back then? When God has opened our eyes, we clearly see through experience what the love, mercy, forgiveness and patience of God is all about. Being on the short end of the stick is not fun, neither is being shunned by family and friends and on top of this by going to church and asking sincere questions only to have them turn on us like wild wolves, is no fun. Now, we see the long suffering and patience of our God, not by sitting on the sidelines, but by walking through the fire. When we keep the faith God has given us, endure, persevere through suffering and persecutiion, then we are as Christ was in the world. Just think of what is coming! Amen. God our Father is wise and good.

To be honest, if it were not for the Spirit of Christ in me, I could not forgive them. This is what separates the ones with His Spirit in them and the ones who don't. His Spirit has conquered and crushed this selfish beast. We are crucified with Him, He has brought us to where He is now. He is not dead and neither are we. We have been awakened out of deep sleep, out of the night and into the light.

These e-mails Ray receives, for me, simply helps to discern each of where they are in their walk. I can not hate the blind just because they are blind, for we all were once there ourselves.

God bless,

Gary

Harryfeat:
Hello everybody,

I have to admit that this is one of the more hate based diatribes I have heard in a while. However, it is not unlike what is spewed like vomit from the faces of all too energetic bible thumpers I have had the dubious distinction of being subjected to.

Through all the vitriole, I couldn't help but find it ironic that they were equating the serpent's words in genesis with universalism. In not so many words saying the serpent's " you will surely not die" means the same as all will be saved unto eternal life. To be honest, that was a twist that I hadn't heard before.

I has been very hard for me to concentrate on trying to love someone while they are berating you and or your friends. I usually have to take time to reflect and forgive later.

feat

honeysucklerose777:
Excuse me for butting in,but does this sound like love to you? My heart was heavy to see such postings. Did any of you give scripture to refute this "Christians"message to you? Jesus said,"Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God. "I would like to hear more from the mouth of God,somehow it lifts my spirit. I'm 60 years old and I don't know it all. I like the saying,BIBLE FIRST, DOCTRINE SECOND. There is a true love and that is to judge others through the eyes of Jesus love. Humble yourselves therefore under the hand of God and He will lift you up. Higher ground is what we want boys and girls not self righteousness. If this doctrine is true then we are all going to the same place,at the same time,right? So beloved,let us love one anotherfor love is of God and everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God,he that loveth not,knoweth not God for God is love,so beloved,let us love one another 1 John 4:7-8

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