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daywalker:
--- Quote from: Arion on August 06, 2009, 01:38:49 PM ---Call me old fashioned, I simply believe that the body of our Lord should be delivered via his priest and no one else.
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What? He seriously believes that the little wafer he eats IS the body of Christ? Yikes, even my old babylonian pastor taught us that it was a SYMBOL... He just never explained why we had to partake in the physical act if it just represented a SPIRITUAL act. ???
Romans 12:5 thus we, who are many, are one body in Christ, yet individually members of one another."
I Corinthians 12:27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members of a part,
Interesting stuff, thanks Arion!
- Daywalker 8)
aqrinc:
The God of this world sure has a mighty hold on most professing Christians; though they think they do what is right. Thank GOD THE FATHER And our Lord Jesus Christ for shining His Light, Grace And Mercy on whom he chooses right now.
My greatest Joy will be when everyone is released, from the dark, stinking, filthy prison they are currently held in. If nothing else, that is one reason for always Thanking our FATHER (ABBA).
Mar 14:36 (LITV)
And He said, Abba, Father, all things are possible to You; take this cup from Me. Yet not what I will, but what You will.
Rom 8:15 (LITV)
For you did not receive a spirit of slavery again to fear, but you received a Spirit of adoption by which we cry, Abba! Father!
Gal 4:6 (LITV)
And because you are sons, God sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying, Abba! Father!
george ;D.
arion:
Ray has a very succinct, short, direct and to the point saying about all such things that I picked up off of one of his audio tapes. He calls it "Dirty Religion" and that it is. To reduce the Son of the living God down to a wafer made by the hands of man and yet it makes perfect sense to them doesn't it? Yet, at one time although I didn't believe that you had to speak in tongues to be a believer or to have 'prophetic utterances' during a service somehow I felt our church was spiritually superior to those who had not experienced such things. Pot meet kettle time. ::)
Astrapho:
--- Quote --- she has told him in the past that she did not want to go to church with him but, it seems, to me at least, that she must go. i could be wrong on this astropho, and if i am i apologize.
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Nope, you're not wrong. If I had free will, I would have left, lol. :D
--- Quote ---What? He seriously believes that the little wafer he eats IS the body of Christ?
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Yep they do. Why, I have no idea. I remember my mom told me not to chew it because "it's Jesus!". :o
My cathecist once told me this horror story of this priest. During communion, when the priest blesses the bread and says "...May be turned into the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ", and he didn't believe it was indeed Jesus's flesh and blood. So the wafer turned into a heart muscle (supposedly Jesus's) right in his hand!! :o I believed it because I was like, 8... But now I'm a skeptic. :P
--- Quote ---My greatest Joy will be when everyone is released, from the dark, stinking, filthy prison they are currently held in. If nothing else, that is one reason for always Thanking our FATHER (ABBA).
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I so look forward to His coming. Like really! I'm gonna nuke Him with a thousand questions when I see Him!!
aqrinc:
What we learn when humility really starts to take hold is; we are just like the worst of sinners anywhere. GOD; In HIS Grace And Faith, Has opened our eyes and ears of Spiritual understanding by HIS Choosing.
If we have anything to boast, it is that our FATHER (ABBA) Will do the same for all our kind (humankind), each in their own course.
1Pe 4: 1-19 (GNB)
1 Since Christ suffered physically, you too must strengthen yourselves with the same way of thinking that he had; because whoever suffers physically is no longer involved with sin.
2 From now on, then, you must live the rest of your earthly lives controlled by God's will and not by human desires.
3 You have spent enough time in the past doing what the heathen like to do. Your lives were spent in indecency, lust, drunkenness, orgies, drinking parties, and the disgusting worship of idols.
4 And now the heathen are surprised when you do not join them in the same wild and reckless living, and so they insult you.
5 But they will have to give an account of themselves to God, who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
6 That is why the Good News was preached also to the dead, to those who had been judged in their physical existence as everyone is judged; it was preached to them so that in their spiritual existence they may live as God lives.
1Pe 4:6 (GW)
After all, the Good News was told to people like that, although they are now dead. It was told to them so that they could be judged like humans in their earthly lives and live like God in their spiritual lives.
1Pe 4:6 (ESV)
For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.
7 The end of all things is near. You must be self-controlled and alert, to be able to pray.
8 Above everything, love one another earnestly, because love covers over many sins.
9 Open your homes to each other without complaining.
10 Each one, as a good manager of God's different gifts, must use for the good of others the special gift he has received from God.
11 Those who preach must preach God's messages; those who serve must serve with the strength that God gives them, so that in all things praise may be given to God through Jesus Christ, to whom belong glory and power forever and ever(eons of the eons CLV). Amen.
12 My dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful test you are suffering, as though something unusual were happening to you.
13 Rather be glad that you are sharing Christ's sufferings, so that you may be full of joy when his glory is revealed.
14 Happy are you if you are insulted because you are Christ's followers; this means that the glorious Spirit, the Spirit of God, is resting on you.
15 If you suffer, it must not be because you are a murderer or a thief or a criminal or a meddler in other people's affairs.
16 However, if you suffer because you are a Christian, don't be ashamed of it, but thank God that you bear Christ's name.
17 The time has come for judgment to begin, and God's own people are the first to be judged. If it starts with us, how will it end with those who do not believe the Good News from God?
18 As the scripture says, "It is difficult for good people to be saved; what, then, will become of godless sinners?"
19 So then, those who suffer because it is God's will for them, should by their good actions trust themselves completely to their Creator, who always keeps his promise.
george. :)
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