As a reborn Christian it is lovely to read that All men will be saved as per the many scriptures pointed out in the teachings of Ray Smith. (So why be reborn if that be the case?)
I do not know what to believe as the bible contradicts itself times without number.
1. The bit about having to be reborn or you will not be saved... please tell where are the people who died without rebirth.
2. There clearly IS a HELL as even Jesus Himself says.... and the gates of HELL shall not prevail against it.
3. When hanging on the cross Jesus said to the thieve on his side that he will be in PARADISE with HIM TODAY... if the dead are dead, where than is paradise... is this different from heaven?
4. Is the Catholic Purgatory the right teaching? It is similar to Rays vision of the "Fire" teaching
There are many scriptures like this...so how can I believe the elaborate teachings of NO HELL by Ray... please explain these contradictions.
Thank you
I earnestly seek the truth.
Hans
1. Where does it state that if you are not reborn you will not be saved?
- What makes you think you are reborn in this life?
a. No one is reborn in this life, rather we are being concieved by the Father and we have an earnest down payment in the form of His spirit. We have not yet attained anything but rather are striving to be born again.
- Those born again, of God's spirit, are invisible and powerful like the wind. How many christians do you know that are invisible and powerful like the wind?
- Now my final point, i'm not 100% sure so someone if i am off, please correct me, but to my understand; Those who inherit the kingdom of heaven are those who have been born again and saved, which does not occur in this life but is rather reserved for God's chosen elect, who will ultimately help bring all of humanity into God's family by judging the angels and the world.
2. There is no hell. Clearly there isn't. Perhaps in your bible translation but Jesus spoke no such thing of a 21st century hell. Please don't come here and try and teach the rest of us. You are seriously mistaken. Where would you like to start? If the scriptures aren't enough, maybe we should dig at the translation of the word which you know as 'hell?' How can you sit there and say that you are overjoyed at the salvation of all and than turn around and say there exists 'clearly' a hell?
-Jesus said the gates of 'HADES' [AKA THE GRAVE/DEATH] shall not prevail against Him or His kingdom. Why? Well we are told why in revalation.
- Revelation 20:14 "
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
a. Now lets stop and think for a minute here. Lets say you're right. Hell is a place of fire and torture. Okay. Do you really believe that HELL was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE? What is the lake of fire than? Is the lake of fire also hell? Do you really think that makes any sence? That God threw hell into itself, into hell? Oh He sure showed hell!
- No what God did was, now follow me closely, throw DEATH AND THE GRAVE [AKA HADES/HELL] into the LAKE OF FIRE. Why? Well, we are told why!
-1 Corinthians 15:26 "
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."
- There you have it! The reason that death and grave are thrown into the lake of fire is because the last enemy of God to be destroyed is death! And wait, lets take this even further. What is the lake of fire?
- Revelation 20:14 "
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."
- Since the lake of fire is actually the second DEATH and we are told that DEATH is the LAST ENEMY TO BE ABOLISHED, DESTROYED, FINISHED than by this reasoning, EVEN THE LAKE OF FIRE WILL COME TO AN END! PRAISE GOD!!
3. Yea well Jesus could have also, "Verily, this DAY, i say to YOU, you SHALL [FUTURE] be with me in paradise." Since the old manuscripts where not big on punctuation it was easy to see it as Jesus saying something completely different. However Jesus makes it clear that He will be, SHALL , which means in the future, be with Him in paradise. Put the comma in the right place, and you see a whole different meaning to the phrase. Which makes complete sense and is in line with the scriptures. No contradiction.
4. No purgatory teaching is complete garbage.
I hope this helps you. The above was said only to aid you and is not ment to be taken offensively.
God bless,
Alex