Hello; I just registered and introduced myself on the corresponding section.
After re-reading the LOF (which is being such a blessing) I found something that I don't quite come to understand.
1) In installment 4, page 14 we read
is also noteworthy that it is "…IN Christ ALL…" and is not restricted to only, "…ALL IN CHRIST…" as many have tried to twist this verse to mean. They say it is only all those who are "in" Christ. But that is not what this verse says. It says "in Christ ALL." That is the order of words. This verse is not speaking of those just the "all believers" who are said to be "IN Christ." No, this verse is speaking about the very same "in Adam ALL" who die become the very same "in Christ ALL" who are made alive. And although this particular verse does not say that "all" are now "IN Christ," it does most definitely say that
"in Christ," the "ALL" shall be shall be "made alive." "Made alive" does not prove they are "in" Christ or that they are "saved," only that they have been given immortal life. Then comes JUDGMENT. But don’t think that therefore there is no Scripture that says they will eventually "ALL" be "IN" Christ, because there is:
"That in the dispensation of the fullness of times He might gather together in one ALL [‘things’ is not in original] IN Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even IN HIM" (Eph. 1:10).
Christ first raises ALL to immortal life. At a later date He gathers this same ALL into Himself. The "in Christ ALL" (I Cor. 15:22) then becomes the "ALL IN CHRIST" (Eph. 1:10). Every creature in heaven and earth will be ONE IN Christ! I hope you can believe that.
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2) In the following teaching by Ray
PHYSICAL or SPIRITUAL RESURRECTION BODIES FOR THE WICKED & NON-BELIEVERS?
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we read
1Co 15:50 “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.”
NO, in the day of harvest, not all will come up “immortal and incorruptible.” Notice that ONLY “we” [God’s Elect], not “they,” “…shall bear the image of the heavenly.” Paul is speaking that “THEY, the earthy,” and “WE, the heavenly,” and only the “we” will “bear the image of the heavenly,” not “they,” the wicked who will be raised as tares to be burned in the Lake of Fire.
The ONLY ones who inherit incorruption are those “WE [who] have borne the image of the earthly [and] shall bear the image of the heavenly.” And this happens at a specific time:
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3) Along the same line we read In installment 1, pag 18
"The dead, small and great" are mortals resurrected to judgment and are
still mortal. Therefore physical fire will BURN THEM UP, hence there can be NO torture or torment for ever and ever.
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I don't know, it
seems to me that there is an obvious inconsistency here between 1) and 2)-3). First we are told that 1 Cor 15 talks about everyone being given inmortality by Christ. Then we are told that 1 Cor 15 talks only about the chosen being given inmortality. Obviously we can't have it both ways.
I believe that in the end Chirst will redeem us all, but the point is that, according to 1) inmortality does not necessarily imply being saved (and judgment comes after inmortality has been granted); however according to 2) and 3) just the opposite seems to be stated.
I have been struggling with this for some days but I have not come up with a satisfactory solution
. I would appreciate if you can give me some light on this.
Thank you.