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bible man:
why wasnt it a sin for jesus to drink wine? is a sin to drink today?
arion:
If Jesus drank wine with alcohol in it (he did) and it wasn't a sin (obviously) then neither would it be for us. Drunkeness is a work of the flesh and it is a sin of course. In the babalonian days my denomination was a bunch of tee totalers (or so they said) and having an alcoholic beverage was a big no no. But at the same time when it came to eating it was like a bunch of fat swine pushing and shoving at the feeding trough and they didn't think anything of it. Gluttony is a sin that ranks right up with drunkeness but of course that part was ignored. They simply exchanged one sin for another. Jesus drank wine occasionally but he didn't get drunk. Jesus ate food but he wasn't a glutton.
The pharassies knew that Jesus drank real wine....
--- Quote ---Mat 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.
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They were not calling him a winebibber because he was drinking grape juice. However there are other important things to consider as well. Paul tells us...
--- Quote ---Rom 14:20-21 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak
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There are those weak in faith who might stumble at you having an alcoholic beverage and if that be the case for their sake it is better not to partake in order not to cause a stumbling block. Paul further tells in in v23 that whatever is not of faith is sin so if one can not partake with a clear conscience in the matter then one should abstain.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: bible man on September 20, 2009, 01:48:46 AM ---why wasnt it a sin for jesus to drink wine? is a sin to drink today?
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Where is it ever written that it is a sin to drink wine in the first place?
Marques
Kat:
Hi Bible man,
Here is an email on drinking.
http://bible-truths.com/email16.htm#drinking -----
As for drinking. No, the wine mentioned in Scripture was not weak like water. There are a dozen or more Scriptures that make reference to "drunkenness" and it is always condemned.
Here are a few:
"And take heed to yourselves lest at any time your hearts be overcharged [weighed down] with surfeiting [carousing], and DRUNKENNESS, and care of this life, and so that day come upon you unaware" (Luke 21:34).
"Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and DRUNKENNESS, not in chambering [licentiousness] and wantonness [lewdness], not in strife and envying. But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and MAKE NO PROVISION FOR THE FLESH, TO FULFILL THE LUSTS THEREOF" (Rom. 13:13).
"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulsions, wrath, strife, sedition's, herisies, envyings, murder, DRUNKENNESS, revelings, and such like of the which I tell you before as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD" (Rom. 5:19-21).
All these warnings being said, is there a proper use of alcohol? Yes there is. Jesus drank wine, as did all the Apostles. Jesus turned water into wine at the wedding in Cana. And surely as the host suggested, they did not save the best "grape juice" till last--it was WINE.
Wine and STRONGER drinks were permissible under the law of Moses:
"And you shall bestow that money for whatsoever your soul lusts after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for STRONG DRINK..." (Deut. 14:26).
Notice that even Paul (who sternly warned against "drunkenness"), that wine can be beneficial:
"Drink no longer water, but use A LITTLE wine [don't get DRUNK] for thy stomach's sake and your often [frequent] infirmities [sicknesses]" (I Tim. 5:23).
So there, briefly, is what the Scriptures say regarding wine and strong drink, but your situation will have to be evaluated by you. Ask God to guide you in ALL YOUR DECISIONS IN LIFE.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Roy Martin:
I can drink a small glass of wine or one cold beer and be feeling the affects almost immediately. I'm not drunk but definitely influenced. There seems to be a fine line here somewhere. Anyway, I don't feel as if I'm sinning to have a beer or some wine from time to time to take off the edge.
Roy
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