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Keeping my lamplight to myself. (Rather trivial but...)
Marky Mark:
--- Quote ---Maybe whats most important right now is that you "come out of her", study and learn these truths and live them.
--- End quote ---
Sound advice George. :)
Also,a little snippet from our teacher on teaching.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5605.0.html
BOTTOM LINE: It is not necessary; we are not obligated; it is not incumbent upon us; we do no NEED to prove our faith to the satisfaction of those who DESPISE THE WORD OF GOD! If we know it in our hearts and minds we are not obligated to prove it to these people that despise the word of God, we’re not obligated. But I teach this, of course for our benefit.
Peace...Mark
Linny:
If it were me I'd say the following.
"I have no interest in debating you. I appreciate that you are concerned about me but you can trust that I am right where God wants me to be. I am a student and not a teacher at this time."
Just my opinion.
Lin
Kat:
Hi Astrapho,
I can see that you are having a lot of trouble standing up for what you believe. Not that you are letting these people sway you in their beliefs, but you just can't stand up to them. Well if you just are not ready to give an answer, then don't. Come up with a one liner that you can say and repeat until these people give up and leave you alone, like 'I am not ready to discuss this with you right now, I will let you know when I am.' Maybe if you have something you are ready to say, then you won't have those undesirable things pop out.
But something else you can do is to give them the BT web address and tell them this is where you learned everything you know. Now I know you may be thinking that they will come back and confront you with what is on the site and you may not want that. Well just give them your one liner, 'I am not ready to discuss this with you right now, I will let you know when I am.'
Anyway just wanted to encourage you and see if I could offer a little help :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
mharrell08:
Sorry for the length, but this passage came to mind:
John 9
And as Jesus passed by, He saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
I must work the works of Him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. When He had thus spoken, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and He anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.
The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged? Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he. Therefore said they unto him, How were thine eyes opened? He answered and said, A man that is called Jesus made clay, and anointed mine eyes, and said unto me, Go to the pool of Siloam, and wash: and I went and washed, and I received sight.
Then said they unto him, Where is He? He said, I know not. They brought to the Pharisees him that aforetime was blind. And it was the sabbath day when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes. Then again the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. He said unto them, He put clay upon mine eyes, and I washed, and do see.
Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them. They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet. But the Jews did not believe concerning him, that he had been blind, and received his sight, until they called the parents of him that had received his sight.
And they asked them, saying, Is this your son, who ye say was born blind? how then doth he now see? His parents answered them and said, We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind: But by what means he now seeth, we know not; or who hath opened his eyes, we know not: he is of age; ask him: he shall speak for himself. These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue. Therefore said his parents, He is of age; ask him.
Then again called they the man that was blind, and said unto him, Give God the praise: we know that this man is a sinner. He answered and said, Whether he be a sinner or no, I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see. Then said they to him again, What did he to thee? how opened he thine eyes? He answered them, I have told you already, and ye did not hear: wherefore would ye hear it again? will ye also be His disciples?
Then they reviled him, and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses' disciples. We know that God spake unto Moses: as for this fellow, we know not from whence he is. The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence He is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes. Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth His will, him He heareth. Since the world began was it not heard that any man opened the eyes of one that was born blind. If this man were not of God, He could do nothing.
They answered and said unto him, Thou wast altogether born in sins, and dost thou teach us? And they CAST HIM OUT. Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, He said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen Him, and it is He that talketh with thee. And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped Him.
And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto Him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
Hello Astrapho,
I just wanted to say, don't be surprised if the above passage happens with you, whether in your next encounter or another.
James 1:2-3 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. :)
Keep the faith Astrapho,
Marques
Astrapho:
Thanks for all the awesome advice! Especially Marques, I didn't even think of that passage until you brought it up. How marvellous!
--- Quote from: Linny ---"I have no interest in debating you. I appreciate that you are concerned about me but you can trust that I am right where God wants me to be. I am a student and not a teacher at this time."
--- End quote ---
Ahh yes, I told her a lot of times that I don't want to debate. But she is one of those hellers who sincerely does not want people to go to hell and therefore must preach to them until they accept, so she insists on talking to me (I managed to drag it till tomorrow). And she's one of my closest friends. So I don't really know what to do. Should I tell her the gospel (at the risk of turning teacher though I'm certainly not qualified)? Or should I tell her exactly what I quoted above (keeping my lamplight to myself)?
(It would be made so much easier if she would visit bible-truths.com, but she flatly refuses to go to "any other website that's contrary to my pastor's teachings". :()
In the meantime, time to roll up my sleeves and pray to be able to do more good works... :x
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