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I don't know what to do.
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: Lupac on December 19, 2009, 02:32:19 AM ---
EDIT: I wish God hadn't hid the truth from all but a few. I used to really respect men like R.C. Sproul and C.S. Lewis. (Well, I still like Lewis, even though he was wrong on so many things, he hated the teaching of hell, but didn't think there was any way around it, from his point of view.) I think, how can men, being as "educated" as those two not see what the simplest can? (I'm not trying to put down Ray, myself, or anyone else, I was just making a point.) It blows my mind.
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The reason is simple, and it blows my mind too.
1Co 1:19 It is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of those who are wise. I will do away with the cleverness of those who think they are so smart." (Isaiah 29:14)
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise person? Where is the educated person? Where are the great thinkers of this world? Hasn't God made the wisdom of the world foolish?
1Co 1:21 God wisely planned that the world would not know him through its own wisdom. It pleased God to use the foolish things we preach to save those who believe.
1Co 3:18 Don't fool yourselves. Suppose some of you think you are wise by the standards of the world. Then you should become a "fool" so that you can become wise.
1Co 3:19 The wisdom of this world is foolish in God's eyes. It is written, "God catches wise people in their own tricks." (Job 5:13)
1Co 3:20 It is also written, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise don't amount to anything." (Psalm 94:11)
G. Driggs
Lupac:
Okay, I have another question. ;) It was brought up in an email to Ray, but wasn't really answered. (At least this point wasn't.) This guy was asking why the apostles would risk (and ultimately lose) their lives to get the gospel out, if they believed everyone would be saved. I know the logic to this is really faulty, and I think it's because that's what God wanted them to do. Also, I feel bad for even asking this and I personally would never do it, but why did a lot of Christians in Rome refuse to deny Christ, and then get put to death, if they believed they would be saved anyway. (Jesus did talk about judgment for those who denied him, (I think.) but not ET.) I'm sorry for asking such a dumb question. But I want to know. Thanks.
arion:
--- Quote ---but why did a lot of Christians in Rome refuse to deny Christ, and then get put to death, if they believed they would be saved anyway.
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They are not going to get saved 'anyway' my friend but one way!! However God has predetermined that all will be saved. It is much better to be judged now and have your carnal heart burned out of you now rather then later but all is of God.
Consider....
--- Quote ---Php 2:12-13 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
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God put a backbone of Iron in the the apostles and they considered their lives as dung and would not deny their Lord after they were all converted. It was a work of the spirit in their lives as it is in us. If God does not embolded us we will fold like an accordion as well.
Lupac:
Thanks for the quick reply. That clears that up for me. I thought of something earlier that really shook me up... It's insane, bit I'm a little worried. Okay, I was reading the last part of the lake of fire series, about infants who die. And I thought, "what if I died as a baby, and everything I'm seeing and going through now is just a test, and it's not real." (Meaning my whole life.) That is crazy isn't it? I kind of scared myself. Thanks. (Damn mental problems.)
darren:
Greetings Lupac: Listen, when I first was introduce to Ray's teachings (his papers) I could not truly comprehend the things I was reading. I mean my whole belief system was in doubt. Satan, free will, hell, all being saved. I had to go back and reread Ray;s paper and take my time with them. These questions your asking are a sign that God is working in you, removing the scales (so to speak) from your eyes. Slow down, relax,take a breath.
Darren
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