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Lupac:
I'm so confused. On one side you have Ray, and others like him saying that God will save all, and no one is going to be burned forever. But then on the other side is all the theologians who are supposed to know the Bible better than anyone else. And then you have the middle ground, of people who say only those who reject Christ will be burned. I don't know what to believe. I want to believe that God is good and just, and won't eternally punish anyone for sin. But then I'm scared that maybe he will. I don't want to serve a god that would burn anyone alive forever, but then I'm afraid if I don't, I will meet the same fate. I wish I could believe, but I don't know how...

arion:
One of my former teachers in babylon did have a few pearls of wisdom that I still hold on to and one of the finest is this one.  "Don't doubt in the darkness what God has given you in the light."  IF you believe that the word of God is true then you have to actually believe it.  God is love!!  (1 John 4:8, 1 John 4:16)  God never changes!! (Mal 3:6)  Now, is it love in any idea of the word to burn your enemies in literal fire?  Well is it?  What does God think about burning people in literal fire?  God says that burning people in fire is an abomination and has never even entered into his mind.  (Jer 32:35)  You will have to decide what you believe about God and his nature.  Do we take him at his word or not?  Do we listen to the charlatans who are like the birds of the air in the parable plucking away God's truth from our hearts or not?  I believe that down deep you have the witness in your own heart about these things.  If God is calling you then this issue will be settled for you sooner or later.  I wish we could pray a prayer for you and fix this but it's not that easy.  God has a path that He has you on and in the end it will bear out.  Some things you just have to walk through.  But I leave you with this once again.

    Don't doubt in the darkness what God has given you in the light!!

Lupac:
You're right. I just have to... overcome. I wish it was easier. I just, want to be secure in my faith that God is good, and just. I certainly don't believe the Babylon idea of hell is justice. JWs have more "justice" than mainstream Christianity. But nether are anywhere near the truth. I guess what I struggle on is, how can I know which is true?

Deborah-Leigh:
Let this reasure you Lupac

Php 2:13  For it is God who is producing in you both THE DESIRE and the ability to do what pleases him.

God produces the DESIRE and the ABILTY. They are both from God.

Arc

Kat:

Hi Lupac,

You have only been studying here for a relatively short period.  Give this time to develop in your mind, you are still laying the foundation.  There is a lot to take in and understand, keep studying and learning line upon line, precept upon precept.  Once you have laid a solid foundation you will really be able to go on to further knowledge, because you will have the basics down.  But first things first.

Mat 13:31  Another parable He put forth to them, saying: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field,

Luke 13:18  Then He said, "What is the kingdom of God like? And to what shall I compare it?
v. 19  It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and put in his garden...

The kingdom of God, could we say this is the Truth and all it encompasses.  What could "his field/garden" be?  Well you take that initial bit of truth you received into your 'heart' and it begins to grow if you nourish it and it will become huge and intricate and able to help others.

Mat 13:32  which indeed is the least of all the seeds; but when it is grown it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches."

v. 19 ...and it grew and became a large tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches."


--- Quote ---But then on the other side is all the theologians who are supposed to know the Bible better than anyone else. And then you have the middle ground, of people who say only those who reject Christ will be burned.
--- End quote ---


Wouldn't you say that these are the "many"?

Mat 7:13  "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14  For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

Mat 7:21  "Not everyone who says to Me, "Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
v. 22  Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?'
v. 23  And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Keep on seeking His truth, He will not disappoint you.

mercy, peace and love
Kat



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