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Astrapho:
It's probably not my place to give advice, but... Just wanna drop my two cents. No, I don't think it is. When you're fighting another swordsman, and you see him throwing a cut at you, you don't just stand there and get killed, you parry! If you know an injection is going to cause your child to get a brain tumor, don't take it. But don't march over to the pharmaneutical company and stage a protest... Uhh, unless you see Jesus in your dream and He tells you to do it. But that's highly unlikely. :P   

No peace loving person would throw the first cut. But that doesn't mean he doesn't defend himself.

Luk 22:36 Yet He said to them, "But now, he who has a purse let him pick it up, likewise a beggar's bag also; and he who has none, let him sell his cloak and buy a sword." (I highly doubt that Jesus told them to get a sword so that they can kill people!)

If anyone feels that my view is erroneous, I welcome correction... I haven't exactly thought about this in-depth.

If you believe that God will eventually deliver you from this, then endure. The end is near!... Or not. But endure anyway. I'll pray for you. :D

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Roy Martin on December 09, 2009, 12:17:49 PM ---One question; Is it being of this world to protect our children from evil motives, and want to stop those that inflict it? This question is not of a rebellious nature. God says we are not to be of this world, but where does it say that we should let our children be sacrificed? This is one of my main issues about this world. Children are not suffering and dieing of natural causes. They are suffering because of evil motives. Yes yes God is responsible and we are accountable for letting it happen. Man oh man; how can I, or we just turn our heads to this. I read the scriptures quoted above and I look for the answer or the place that says God will not inspire us to take some action to stop the evil happening to children. How can we tell a mother or Grand parent to just let it go when their child has died or suffering from a brain tumor caused by toxic injections. This is real, and its the world, and it hardens my heart to dwell on it; even more because I can't do anything about it because we are not to be of this world.
 I'm sure that God will eventually deliver me from this, but I don't know how to ask Him.

Roy
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God doesn't tell us to let our children be harmed or sacrificed, but to count them a blessing and teach them the Way:

Prov 22:6  Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it

Ps 127:3  Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward

But who heeds the Lord's counsel? Remember, all the 'evil motives' are being done by people who were once children themselves. It is the Lord who ultimately determines who suffers, becomes sick, dies, etc. Not one person on this earth can extend their days or anyone else's.

We don't turn our heads away from all the sufferings, but turn to the Lord...that's why it's called faith. We should trust Him more than our own understandings, but this too can only come from God.


Marques

Roy Martin:
 Quote from Marques
We don't turn our heads away from all the sufferings, but turn to the Lord...that's why it's called faith. We should trust Him more than our own understandings, but this too can only come from God.


 Got it. Thank you.

Roy

indianabob:
Roy and folks,

We had a grandson, Brandon who was just 18 last year and coming into his full man hood and finally free of his mother and dad's oversight.  I mention this because they were not getting along and he was suffering for it to some extent since he was born. Brandon lived with us in the summer and altogether about five years of his life and we loved him enough to take him in for a full year so he could attend high school in our little town.

Brandon had his whole life ahead of him and we anticipated helping him to overcome life's difficulties and to be for him, a place of tranquility and peace.  Then there was a traffic accident and Brandon was in the back seat of a car with his friends and it was hit broadside by an SUV at 50 mph.  So, apparently he was killed instantly.

Everyone at the funeral who knew that he lived with us, his grandparents, commented about his loss of opportunity and our loss of a loving grandson.
But, he could have gotten into lots of trouble at 18 or he could have joined the army and been shot up in Iraq or gotten onto drugs and so forth.

So here we are knowing and understanding that there REALLY is a resurrection and we really will have Brandon with us once again and with that we are content.   Because he will begin his life over once again at age 18 and surrounded by loving friends who have been given the truth and are being taught righteousness.

Our loving friends and relatives, bless them all, haven't got a clue and they struggle with the situation and blame the driver of Brandon's car, the driver of the other car, the hospital and mostly God's way of not protecting those that we love most.

My wife and I are just glad that we have true knowledge and are able to accept the short time we had with our grandson.  It gives us true peace in the midst of loss.

Indiana Bob

Roy Martin:
Hello Bob, Your story and experience as well as your disposition leaves me almost speechless, but not without much to think about and be thankful for. I'm so sorry for the loss of your Grandson Brandon.
 Your words have struck deep in me. I understand what you have said. Thank you Bob for sharing this sad but very inspiring testimony.

Sincerely
  Roy

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