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Deborah-Leigh:

So now,

Mat 26:2  You know that after two days the Passover comes, and the Son of Man is betrayed to be crucified.
Mat 27:3  Then he who had betrayed Him, seeing that He was condemned, sorrowing, Judas returned the thirty pieces of silver again to the chief priests and elders,
Luk 21:16  And YOU shall be betrayed also by parents and brothers and kinsmen and friends. And they will cause some of you to be put to death.
1Co 11:23  For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus in the night in which he was betrayed took bread;
In the night, darkness, we are betrayed. But look…
1Jn 2:8  Again, I write a new commandment to you, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true Light NOW shines.
Joh 12:46  I have come as a Light into the world, so that whoever believes on Me should not remain in darkness.
Joh 8:12  Then Jesus spoke again to them, saying, I am the Light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Joh 3:19  And this is the condemnation, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness  rather than the Light, because their deeds were evil.
 Jesus was betrayed firstly, condemned secondly and thirdly He rose again. He asked Peter firstly, do you agape Me, then for a second time, do you agape Me and then thirdly do you Phileo Me….then feed My Sheep.
How many times has Jesus Christ asked YOU if you love Him. He asked  His Disciples Who do YOU say I AM? Has God given YOU THE REPLY…are you bearing the fruit of His Spirit? You are not answerable to me. These are just the questions that I have received that I share with the Disciples of Christ.
1Pe 2:9  But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for possession, so that you might speak of the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;
To copy back from Marks beautiful contribution, not in denial of others insightful offerings, here then again, compliments of our much loved Ray Smith. Quote…
To the degree that we have God's Spirit is the degree to which we reside in this Kingdom

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peter:
Not sure if I should post this or not...Always intriguing Sauls vision for me, and am reminded of the "VISION" that Peter, James, and John had of the Lord and of Moses and Elijah on the Mt of Transfiguration. Also, the visions that Daniel/Saul had comes to mind with the angel and Daniel being to weak to stand. I am sure that many have had dreams and perhaps visions and it is difficult to discern whether they are simply dreams or "visions". I had two disturbing dreams in two consecutive nights about 2 years ago...I dont want to bore anyone but perhaps the dreams are similar to those of others and have some value...here goes, no one else was interested...anyway...  
The first a vision of a young man learning to make a "pattern" with stones that looked like long six sided translucent crystals with a very kindly faced woman somehow teaching him how but she was not really directly doing so, sort of underneath the scene but smiling and yet very much a part of the scene in this dream. The young man was a little like a younger prince Charles in appearance but yet not, he, the young man then somehow goes to war and it is an aerial war with airplanes almost like the battle of Britain which battle he returns from victorious but "wiser". Then a elderly man almost like a manservant that has cared for him, says to him it is time for him to change... to put on some clothes perhaps... but the young man seems to shrug off the servant saying almost no saying that it is time for him, time to reign as king, the servant bows and leaves the scene and the young mans appearance changes into a sort of beautiful serenely handsome man and he takes the crystal stones and puts them into the form of a flat wheel and then uses the wheel (almost like using a needle on a recordplayer) to "rub" on a large pedestal shaped rock which then resounds with the most hauntingly beautiful song or vibration I have ever heard. The vibration somehow spreads through everything, everywhere and in my dream I could feel it in my heart and my bones as part of me, a most beautiful thing. I woke up with the most intense feeling of joy and for hours after could still feel the song. A most beatiful dream unlike anything I have ever had, as though the world was already won and that by a song.
The next nights dream was totally different. Two doors faced me in a narrow corridor almost at the top of a stairwell, a brilliant light dangerously bright was flashing and pulsating out from the gap between doors and floor/walls and I was very afraid (terrified) but understood that I must be brave enough to open the doors. I opened the left door. What I experienced was terrifying, a vision of a most awesome man/being that was made wholely out of a living gold in the form of a man, that seemed to be a fire but without flames, and eyes like peircing emerald green (lazer bright) that seemed to pierce through my mind and knew everything about me. I was petrified, in the dream the being/angel was for me seen as absolute evil incarnate, and I struggled for what seemed an age to even have the strength to mouth the words "please help me Father" (help me protect me from this creature) in my mind. As I did so the man/vision looked almost sadly at me and its composure became that of the meekest creature and it turned moving away/dissappeared. I seemed to feel a sense of incredible sadness and yet triumph. It was easy then to open the second door and the creature there seemed to immediately fade away. I woke up utterly devastated by the dream/vision. It was more real for me than driving in my car. I kept thinking I had confronted evil itself and failed dismally but somehow was triumphant but than and now remain confused that perhaps I did not recognise absolute "good/love" when it came to visit. I am still stunned today at what I saw. For me the vision Daniel and Saul of Tarsus had took on a very different perspectives and still feel as though today I had missed a once in a lifetime opportunity. I trust it is not so and have learned much in the two years that have past since these night visions.

olasupo jacobs:
I wanna say a big thanks to all who read and some who responded to this post of mine. indeed real spiritual things dont come easy, especially with the cacophony of voices you hear where you are located. hardly a time goes without you "picking" one message or the other from "Babylon"(i meant hearing or seeing a print you didnt solicit for). the audacity with which they claim to interpret the scriptures makes one shudder. i  heard a prominent minister from Nigeria my country say Paul was literally trans located to the third heaven where he got his revelation and he quote 2 cor. as his authority, that was why i wanted to know more about it. where as the scripture is clear as regards the originator  and place of visions, revelations in the things of God. Truly if it were possible the elect would have been deceived...but we have a more sure word of prophecy(faith in d veracity of the scripture).. remain blessed thanks alot

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