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myms:
From Ray's talk on marriage he states:

'If you are not in matrimony in your wedding bed, what does God consider you?  A whoremonger and a adulterer.  Now do I need to read Rev. 21:8, “All whoremongers will find their place in the Lake of fire.”  Is that not clear enough there?  People don’t put these things together.  If you are not married, but you live together, you are a whoremonger and adulterer. '
 
I have been with my atheist partner now for ten years. Whilst I would like to be married, my partner sees no value in a written contract of marriage (especially after one failed marriage where his wife walked out on him) and has refused to go through another marriage ceremony with me. It was during our second year of being together that God led me to Ray's site and turned my spiritual life upside down and I have been steadliy growing in my walk with Him. Are my desires, aspirations and love for God all anulled because my partner refuses to marry me? Am I a whore, an adulterer and headed for the Lake of Fire?

In England the marriage certificate is of little value in protecting your wife/husband/partner in the event of death, a will is now the most powerful document you can have to provide protection and care for a loved one. My partner has a will that provides for me - but its not a marriage certificate!

Would anyone like to comment. I feel crushed by Ray's words above. That a situation over which I have no control could prevent me from reaching the finishing line! Myms

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: myms on February 08, 2010, 11:11:55 PM ---Would anyone like to comment. I feel crushed by Ray's words above. That a situation over which I have no control could prevent me from reaching the finishing line! Myms
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I wouldn't worry about it...God's calling you, as your deep desire to help bring in His Kingdom testifies to that fact. God will direct your steps to assure you will be in His Kingdom. Christ is the author AND finisher of the faith [Heb 12:2]...if He has began a good work in you, He will finish it [John 4:34 & 5:36].

1 John 4:4  ...greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world

Jude 1:24-25  Now unto Him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.


Keep the faith Myms,

Marques

DougE6:

Hello Myms

10 years is quite a while.  In your eyes, is he your exclusive lifelong partner? Do you think he feels the same towards you? Then, in many municipalities, you have what is known as a "common law marriage"

"Common-law marriage, sometimes called de facto marriage, informal marriage or marriage by habit and repute, is a form of interpersonal status which is legally recognized in some jurisdictions as a marriage even though no legally recognized marriage ceremony is performed or civil marriage contract is entered into or the marriage registered in a civil registry. A common-law marriage is legally binding in some common law jurisdictions but has no legal consequence in others. In some jurisdictions without true common-law marriages, for example, Hungary, the term "common-law marriage" is used as a synonym for non-marital relationships such as domestic partnership or reciprocal beneficiaries relationship.[1]

Common-law marriage is often contrasted with the ceremonial marriage."

I am pretty sure in some areas of the world your relationship would be recognized as a common law marriage, because of its length and exclusivity. That may give you some comfort.

But I think the most important barometer is your own conscience. If God has something to tell you, he will make it clear. Having a clear conscience before God is the ultimate test for all of us.  Ray talks about how nice a clean conscience is.  Was your conscience clean before reading that statement about whoremongers?

Generic advice...
If you are troubled, I would not rush into an immediate conclusion. The heart takes time to sort things out. Trust God.

If you are troubled, you need to pray, and give time for the answer to become clear in your own conscience. Trust God.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.  7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

1 “Do not let your heart be troubled; believe in God, believe also in Me. ...Jesus

Doug

PS this is a very difficult area, because of the depth of the emotions involved.  Trust God, not my advice. So please take my advice only very lightly. Hopefully wiser counselors will help more. I just wanted to bring up the legal common law status that may help give you some other perspective.

Does your partner know how dear to you your beliefs are? Does he know them? As an athiest, I think he would find your
understandings much more palatable than orthodox christianity.  He may even find them fascinating, being so far out of the mainstream, and having such a powerful message too.

myms:
Thank you Marques and Doug for your helpful and thoughtful comments. Yes of course, He is the author AND finisher of my faith, thank you for remindng me of that verse.

Doug  'Does your partner know how dear to you your beliefs are? Does he know them? As an athiest, I think he would find your
understandings much more palatable than orthodox christianity.  He may even find them fascinating, being so far out of the mainstream and having such a powerful message too.' Yes he's intrigued and asks a lot of questions but thats as far as it goes.....to date!

I really appreciate what you both have shared, many thanks.

Myms

Lupac:
I know how you feel about finding out something may be wrong, and then worrying about it. I didn't even know there was an "unforgivable sin" (There isn't.) until I heard a theologian on the radio talking about it. Once I heard what it was, I started obsessing over it, and sometimes committing it, in my mind, then worrying about it, praying about it, its just the way I am. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you're committed you him, and you didn't even think about it until you read that, you're okay.  ;)

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