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Deborah-Leigh:
Joh 4:16 He said to her, "Go and call your husband, and come back here."
Joh 4:17 The woman answered him, "I don't have a husband." Jesus said to her, "You are quite right in saying, 'I don't have a husband.'
Joh 4:18 For you have had five husbands, and the man you have now is not your husband. What you have said is true."
Remember Myms, the absolute v/s relative key to understanding Gods word. God speaks absolutely. Man speaks relatively.
GOD IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ETERNAL FATE OF AFRICANS
A Sermon by:
James Kennedy, A.B., M.Div., M.Th., D.D.,
D.Sac.Lit., PhD., Litt.D., D.Sac.Theol., D. Humane Let.
A Critique by: L. Ray Smith
One is the "relative" the other is the "absolute." One is from man's point of view, comparing men with men, the other is from God's point of view. One shows how a thing is perceived while the other shows how it actually is. One is for minors while the other is for the mature.
They do not contradict. However, one really is "relative" while the other is "absolute."
Theologians are always taking Scriptures that speak of the relative, from man's point of view, and insist that these verses are absolute. By doing this they commit a double sin. Because then they insist that these relative truths actually nullify God's absolute declarations. They won't admit to this in their own words, but this is what they do when they retain the "relative" at the expense of rejecting the "absolute." .
Myms, notice that the woman said that she did NOT have a husband. In HER mind, she was not married. She spoke truthfully according to her conscience. Jesus spoke Absolutely from His Spirit.
Did Jesus contradict the woman? No. Did He make her wrong? No. Did He send her on a guilt trip? No. He acknowledged her for speaking truthfully! Did Jesus make a mistake to call the man that she was with, her husband? NO. He is her husband, in God’s eyes and his accountability before God, AS HER HUSBAND will be for his account before God.
Your partner shall be held accountable for you as your husband too and like the woman, you may well have the command to call your husband and come back to Christ where YOU KNOW He is to be found - at the well of living water -there is no condemnation. Jesus knows about you and your partner. He knows and caused the circumstance you are in to elevate your faith, trust, hope and aspiration in HIM. There is NO condemnation.
Arc
Extol:
Marques and Doug,
Thanks for the great Scriptures/reminders. Lately I've been feeling kinda down; depressed because of the lusts of my flesh, and the worries of life (money, job, college, career, etc.)
Your posts reminded me that there is nothing I can do to overcome these things; I can only trust in God. He is working all things after the counsel of His own will. :)
Deborah-Leigh:
Opinion is worthless unless backed by the authority of the Word of God.
So here then is your answer.
1Co 8:1 Now concerning food offered to idols: We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.
1Co 8:11 In that case, the weak brother for whom Christ died is destroyed by your knowledge.
1Co 8:12 When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak consciences, you are sinning against Christ.
1Co 8:13 Therefore, if food causes my brother to fall, I will never eat meat again, in order to keep my brother from falling.
--- Quote ---If a man and woman live together, one partner would like to be married, the other partner does not, are they married before God?
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As Adam was accountable and as Eve was accountable, let the man living out of wed lock with the woman be accountable and let the woman who suffers the disgrace be entrusted to the Wisdom of God for her love of her spouse can surely win Gods mercy on his behalf. So say the Scriputures.
Which woman does not want to marry? Which man desires to toy with Jezabell but the fool in his folly. All are accountable each for their own. To God's Mercy others are commended, for in truth God works out all things for the good for those who love Him.
Arc
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on February 09, 2010, 01:51:10 PM ---To everyone else,
If a man and woman live together, one partner would like to be married, the other partner does not, are they married before God?
God would have to answer that question. Unless God appears to you and tells you the answer, then we need to find the answer in his Scriptures. If you know the answer to the question, do you have two or three scriptures that directly answer the question? If you do not, of what value is your opinion?
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Hello John,
Actually Ray teaches, using scriptural witnesses, on what marriage is. It's a bible study from Feb '07 found here: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5675.0.html
Also, what do you mean 'married before God'? Is that different than simply being married with the ceremony, vows, etc? Is it possible to be married 'not before God'? I'm simply curious as to what that phrase means.
Thanks,
Marques
tinknocker:
Hi Myms,
You really got me thinking about what makes a marriage. As a married man coming up on 40 years in October you would think I would have a pat answer. I do not! As a 19 year old taking marriage vows I can tell you I had not a clue what I was committing too! Just because I have a marriage license somewhere (haven't seen it in 40 years) is not what makes me married. That piece of paper is not what stops me from being unfaithful to my wife. I don't wear a wedding ring, being in construction where it can be snagged in a piece of equipment (seen to many fingers lost do to rings), even that doesn't make me any less married. All the physical things, ceremonies, papers, rings, preachers, or justice of the peace, is not what makes you married. Don't think I didn't want to ring my wife's neck on many occasions but by the grace of God we're still committed to each other. The only thing that keeps going through my mind is this verse;
Proverbs 16:9 A man's heart plans his way, but the LORD determines his steps.
So I guess it comes down too God determined I was going to be with/married to this person at the age of 19 years old until God says it finished. It's not done by piece of paper or man's law but by the love and commitment that God has provided to make it so. And then He blessed both of us with eyes and ears to hear and see the truth.
Just my thoughts from an old married man that loves his wife.
In Love
Tom
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