WARD Why do hetrosexuals seem so interested in pointing out the homosexuals' sin?
My belief, at this point, is that hetrosexuals believe that the sin of homosexuality is the ONE sin they can claim the never commited. "Yep... I may have commited every other sin there is, but I didn't do that one. No Siree... Not ME!" So that must make it worse. Right? And of course its my job to point this out to everyone. (Point out those HOMOs so that nobody notices my own sins is more like it.)
I have a question for you. What exactly is 'the sin' of homosexuality? Is it committing a homosexual act? If that is 'the sin' then I must confess that I committed it...have you? I hope no one here thinks I'm judging them as a 'worse sinner', because I truly don't believe that and am not trying to give that impression. I do feel like they are
more lost though. Not so lost that the Shepherd won't eventually find them and allow them to willingly bow the knee mind you. But more lost in this age...just like some of us are
"saved" to a greater degree in this age...according to scripture. So if some are saved to a greater degree, then I am admittedly as_uming (sic) that some are
'lost' to a greater degree. Is that because of a
"sin unto death" in this age only? That's the question I am asking based upon the following scripture. Which no one has addressed yet.
1JO 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. What's your take on this verse Ward?
FEATI will repeat my statement from the last post: If you can find anywhere in the new testament where there is a quote from Christ about gravity then perhaps my pov about the ot laws may need revising. When looking at the topic of sin, I tend to question anything written by the apostles as a carryover from their backgound steeped in Jewish law and ot scripture.
You're right...I couldn't find a verse saying
'that' anywhere, from Christ. Couldn't find one with Him telling me to not beat my wife either...dang she's gonna hate getting beat from now on.....I'm sure you see my point.
I will be honest though and admit that what you're doing with 1 John though, bothers me. My bible says
"all scripture is inspired by God". Do you believe you/we hear God better than they did? Are we really devoid of the 'steeping' we've received from 1000 years of Catholicism from the dark ages? How many here are even more than 'just a few years' out, from the 'stain of influence' that truths taught here at BT sets one free from? I truly wonder.
I personally do not believe that there is any real difference in "missing the mark" It doesn't matter how you categorize what that failure is. The sin of one is the sins of all.
I would agree as far as 'life in the hereafter' is concerned, but would not agree as far a' life in this age' though.
Your definition of sins of the flesh contains the word lust. So do you think that a physical act can be a sin or is it just the lust to perform it?
If it was just 'the lust to perform it' then Christ would be a sinner. For scripture says:
HEB 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. The old testament law "was our schoolmaster" is the key to what I am saying about being designed to keep the Jews in line. It was much like how we treat our toddlers so they learn to live without too much danger in the physical world around them.. Don't touch this, don't do that. and then punish them so they wont do it again. The ot laws emphasized the physical world also, not the spiritual. Don't eat this, don't do that. Being stoned means to us a whole different thing than the actual physical stoning in Leviticus.
I guess I feel like I'm still under the law in any area where I'm not submitted to Christ. And if I don't submit to Christ in those areas when convicted by the Spirit...then I will reap the judgment that comes with those areas where I'm still a 'toddler' in my thinking.
Your sure right about 'being stoned' meaning something different. I was a hippie when 'called' of God and given the faith to believe. For years I told guys I spilled more good pot than they'd ever smoked (Viet Nam had its HIGH points).
The movie was good, Mama (my wife) and I both enjoyed it. I also enjoyed the 5 dollar bag of popcorn...what a rip though.
FREEIn the past I was one of the many that actually thought that "THEY" were evil sinners. I believed that "THEY" had a choice and simply made the wrong one. I actually believed that homosexuality was a sin above sins.
For the record, I think WE were/are evil sinners. At least I don't know anyone who's made IT yet in overcoming sin totally. I agree with you that they had a CHOICE and made the wrong one. Just like I had a choice after my homosexual sin. I believe that I chose not to do it again. But I'm still not sure about sexual sins not being worse. Not just homosexual sin but all sexual sins. I say that because of the following scripture.
1CO 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. Why doesn't it just say FLEE SIN? Why the distinction about 'without/outside the body' versus 'sinning against his own body'. What do you do with this verse.
It's late and I've got an early bike ride with a Baptist bro. Nite all.