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mannonthecross:
Thanx, Daniel for your reply. You answered quite well!   :wink:  You are reliable, knowledgeable & wise for one so young! How old did you say you are?  :D

Sometimes, well...maybe more than that we take words for granted (in more ways than one). For instance, in this case, attempting to convey the High Authority of God vs our accountability for our actions. It is interesting to ponder.

Because God is our Sovereign Creator, He & no other is responsible for His handiwork-which is us, His creation. And, of course, we are accountable for our own actions.

Even though responsible & accountable are synonyms in the dictionary, I guess that could be like saying one understands the "letter" of the meaning, but not the "spirit" of the meaning.  :?  :lol:

Anyway, responsible & accountable just don't seem to pack the punch for such a profound Truth. (This all makes way more sense in my thoughts than on paper).

Daniel, you mentioned that you are less than stellar today. My prayer is the the Lord vanquish that "thing" (infirmity?) that on occasion ATTEMPTS to bring you low. Please forgive me if my assumption is out of line.

Blessings

mannonthecross:
Tim & Gill,

Very good illustrations! Thank You! More often than not, simplified is best! :wink:


Andy,

Wow, great explanation! I guess I didn't search far enough or deep enough. That "Usage Note" pretty much nails what I thought the word responsbile was not conveying. Now I can see why. Great Job! 8)

Daniel:
ManontheCross writes


--- Quote ---Thanx, Daniel for your reply. You answered quite well!  You are reliable, knowledgeable & wise for one so young! How old did you say you are?
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Well I'm glad as breif as that was put, but you figured me all wrong trust me, I'm as dull as they come :lol:  Andy hit it right on.

How old did I say I was?

I never said, should I?  :lol: I'm 41 years old, how about yourself manonthecross? Are you a younger or older fart then myself?  :wink:


ManontheCross writes


--- Quote ---Sometimes, well...maybe more than that we take words for granted (in more ways than one). For instance, in this case, attempting to convey the High Authority of God vs our accountability for our actions. It is interesting to ponder.
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I'm probrobly one of "those" who does do this to some degree :lol: (guilty as charged)  But obviously we will reap what we sow and give account for ourselves (even every idle word) as our Lord says "by His own word".

His word is fire and our words (or the tongue that utters them) is seen as a fire as well. Fire with fire?

I believe He wins though :wink:  

ManontheCross writes


--- Quote ---God is our Sovereign Creator, He & no other is responsible for His handiwork-which is us, His creation. And, of course, we are accountable for our own actions.
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Agreed :D


--- Quote ---Even though responsible & accountable are synonyms in the dictionary, I guess that could be like saying one understands the "letter" of the meaning, but not the "spirit" of the meaning.  :?  :lol:  

Anyway, responsible & accountable just don't seem to pack the punch for such a profound Truth. (This all makes way more sense in my thoughts than on paper).
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Hey, I think the same thing! Watch your catching a glimpse of inside does it no justice on paper, just the "wow" of the reality of the thing.

I think the flame the rich man was in torment of was his own tongue. I suppose we learn through "flare ups" as well as a consuming of ones "increase" :lol:

Manonthecross writes,


--- Quote ---Daniel, you mentioned that you are less than stellar today. My prayer is the the Lord vanquish that "thing" (infirmity?) that on occasion ATTEMPTS to bring you low. Please forgive me if my assumption is out of line.
--- End quote ---


Thank you ManontheCross your not at all out of line (in fact, right on). I just had some light surgery yesterday no big deal. I am well, I'm taking a bit of Oxycodone for the pain.

What that REALLY MEANS I'm NOT in pain right now :lol: Equally so, I might not be "right on" about too much either :lol:

Peace to you bro, good post

Daniel

Brett:

--- Quote from: mannonthecross ---Hi you guys,

I have a question on the LOF, all the way back to Part 2.

Ray writes that God is RESPONSIBLE & we are ACCOUNTABLE. Even so, upon looking up both of these words in Webster's Dictionary & Thesaurus, I found that those two words are actually synonyms of each other-they actually mean the same thing.

Even though I believe that I understand what Ray is conveying, is there a better way to clarify God's being responsible & us being accountable?

Thanx
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I thought about that since last year. I was thinking what is mean of responsible. Though maybe share with you of what I thought.

As you know 'Christendom' often teach that we are the responsible of what we have done on earth and God is not responsible. That is their myths. So, if suppose God is not responsible at all, then why would He send His Son to died on the cross for us? Simple, in scriptures show us that God created good and EVIL, He created us in MARRED, etc. So if we are responsible, then I would say God will not send His Son to died for us because we are responsible! It is our DO SOMETHING to fix things and we must pay for (responsible). And accountable is not do something to pay for. Andy showed us of accountable in Greek word meaning. This is very true that we are to speak before God of what we have done on the earth. His responsible is finished die on the cross and now another responsible is God will chasten all mankind for to purge, train, repentance and learn His truth in the Lake of Fire (except few chosen). Chasten will not have pleasing life, it will be worst painful in emotional  :(  but after that God will saved the rest of all mankind.  And all mankind will joyful with Him. O:)

Hope this is extra help. Sorry about lousy English.  :|

mannonthecross:

--- Quote ---I'm as dull as they come :lol:
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Not!
Don't sell yourself so short Daniel. God has anointed you with wisdom & knowledge of His Truths & with the compassion of His heart. He truly has given you eyes to see & ears to hear & a heart that bleeds!

Amos 3:7  Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Pro 25:2  It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the glory of kings is to search out a matter.


--- Quote ---How old did I say I was? I never said, should I?  :lol: I'm 41 years old
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,

Sorry, Daniel. I thought on one of the earlier threads where some were giving their ages, you were a twenty something.  :?


--- Quote ---how about yourself manonthecross?
Are you a younger or older fart then myself?  :wink
--- End quote ---


Spiritually? Quite a bit younger. Chronologically? cough...cough...5-that would be 55 years. Lord preserve me!  :shock:


--- Quote ---His word is fire and our words (or the tongue that utters them) is seen as a fire as well. Fire with fire?
--- End quote ---


Amen to that. And that fire (His Word) which not only hurts the flesh when it burns hot, it stinketh (the flesh, that is).  :lol:


--- Quote ---I believe He wins though :wink:
--- End quote ---


Ain't no doubt about it!



--- Quote ---just the "wow" of the reality of the thing.
--- End quote ---


yeah, THEE "WOW"!!


--- Quote ---I think the flame the rich man was in torment of was his own tongue. I suppose we learn through "flare ups" as well as a consuming of ones "increase" :lol:
--- End quote ---


Do you mean increase of oneself?



--- Quote ---What that REALLY MEANS I'm NOT in pain right now :lol: Equally so, I might not be "right on" about too much either :lol:
--- End quote ---


Daniel, the amount of God in you, shines through it all, pain or no pain, right on or right off.

Blessings to you, Daniel, my brother. Good fellowship!

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