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Lupac:
Hi, I was wondering what the true view of the cross is, according to the Scriptures? I was taught the "Penal Substitution" version, which is basically "man messed up and offended God, so God had to have a perfect blood sacrifice so He could forgive us". Like all other of Babylon's doctrines, I don't believe it's true, but what is? There are other views, like "God tricked Satan with Jesus so men would be redeemed from his power"... Yeah, right. But, I'm not sure what the true view is. Can anyone help? Thanks.

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Lupac on April 21, 2010, 11:28:34 AM ---Hi, I was wondering what the true view of the cross is, according to the Scriptures?
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There is no 'view of the cross' teachings, according to the scriptures. Christ says His blood is shed for the 'remission of sins' [Matt 26:28].

I don't want to have to lock this thread Lupac, but there is no point asking for opinions on unscriptural beliefs. The purpose of the forum is to discuss the material on the website and the scriptural truths revealed in them. Hope you understand


Marques

Lupac:
What? Look, I am NOT supporting any "unscriptural beliefs. I stated the two in my first post were untrue. Did you even read it? Maybe I didn't make it very clear. I wanted to know why Jesus had to die on the cross. Three words really don't explain it very well, or tell how. You can lock it, I really don't care...

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: Lupac on April 21, 2010, 11:42:55 AM ---What? Look, I am NOT supporting any "unscriptural beliefs. I stated the two in my first post were untrue. Did you even read it? Maybe I didn't make it very clear. I wanted to know why Jesus had to die on the cross. Three words really don't explain it very well, or tell how. You can lock it, I really don't care...
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A couple things Lupac:

1. I never stated you supported unscriptural beliefs (Did YOU even read it?)

2. No, you didn't make it very clear...no where did you ask 'why' Jesus had to die on the cross.

3. You can read the material on the website to get further explanation on the term 'remission of sin'. You'll need to read the Lake of Fire SERIES, not just cut & paste quotes to get a better understanding.


Marques

Dave in Tenn:
I don't recall where the statement was made by Ray, but Jesus came and died to prove God loved the world.  That's the meaning of Jn 3:16. 

Is that the be-all-and-end-all answer?  Every scriptural reason for Jesus's death is true and part of the same thing.      

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