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soberxp:

--- Quote from: Kat on May 22, 2010, 08:46:20 AM ---
Hi Zee,

Well to your first point was Rev 12:5  "She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron."  This is referring to Jesus Christ, who most assuredly is at the throne of God and it is Christ who will rule with an "rod of iron."

Rev 19:15  And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God.
v. 16  And He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

1Th 4:17 Thereupon we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And thus shall we always be together with the Lord.

There must be a gathering together of the Elect, both those alive and those resurrected, at Christ's return and I think the clouds that surround the earth and are in the physical realm, but are not on the earth is an appropriate place. They will "meet the Lord in the air," and that will start the reign and rule of Christ on the earth. And yes they will remain with Him from then on, "always."

I think that Christ's ascension into the clouds was merely a way that He choose to make His final exit, instead of just vanishing out of sight as He did at other times. And with the angels comment, they knew He would not returning to visit with them, not until the end.

Clouds seem to be used in Scripture as a physical, but ethereal representation from heaven, they're symbolic of heavenly things.

Eze 1:28  Like the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD.
 
Mat 17:5  While he yet spoke, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them. And behold a voice out of the cloud which said, This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased, hear Him.

Rev 10:1  And I saw another mighty angel coming down out of the heaven, clothed with a cloud. And a rainbow was on his head, and his face was as the sun, and his feet like pillars of fire.

Isa 4:5  Then the LORD will create over the whole site of Mount Zion and over her assemblies a cloud by day,

Psa 78:14  In the daytime also He led them with the cloud,
       And all the night with a light of fire.

Isa 19:1  The burden of Egypt. Lo, Jehovah is riding on a swift thick cloud...

2Ch 5:13 "For He is good,
       For His mercy endures forever,"
       that the house, the house of the LORD, was filled with a cloud,

Job 26:8  He binds up the water in His thick clouds,
       Yet the clouds are not broken under it.
Job 26:9  He covers the face of His throne,
       And spreads His cloud over it.

Job 37:15  Do you know when God dispatches them,
       And causes the light of His cloud to shine?
Job 37:16  Do you know how the clouds are balanced,
       Those wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge?

mercy, peace and love
Kat

p.s. It's certainly not easy going through the transition, but He needs to strip away the filthy rags from church that we were clothed in and get us into the white garments of righteousness. It is a process that takes time, I'll be praying for you.

Isa 64:6  But we are all like an unclean thing,
       And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags;
       We all fade as a leaf,
       And our iniquities, like the wind,
       Have taken us away.

Rev 3:5  He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.



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