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Coming out of the Pentecostal Doctrine
cherokee:
Hey Josh,
Welcome to the forum.
Blessings,
Suzie
Linny:
Hi Josh! Welcome!
It is HARD when you first come out isn't it? Well, it only gets easier if you learn to keep your mouth shut! ;) That is what I found out early enough before I severed all my relationships.
I feel for you as you are in the MIDDLE of churchdom and in a bad situation for laying low, huh?
My BIL is a preacher but my sister and he live 12 hours away. whew. Makes my life much easier as a heretic. (heretic defined as someone who disbelieves in church doctrine).
Go easy on your wife. Patience will be highly needed as you both deal with this huge change in your lives. She may surprise you and God may bring her over quickly but perhaps it will be a process. But if she is not open now, don't try to force it. Let God pull her for you. It'll make your life much easier. ;)
"Be ready with an answer..." not a sermon! :D
Glad you are here!
Lin
smeacham:
Welcome, brother. It is amazing how deep the "rabbit hole" of tainted doctrine goes, and how attached our flesh can be to it. I cheer for you and I cry for you. His yoke is easy and His burden is lite. Our fellow mans' are not.
Steve in Kansas City
Kat:
Hi Josh,
I glad you have joined us, welcome to the forum :)
Now that you have eyes to see, you can search the Scriptures to learn as much truth as the Spirit will reveal, but it will require a lot of digging to get to those precious treasures. Since you are one of the few blessed to understand this truth, now you need to apply, in your everyday life, what you are learning. You can not make the blind see this truth, but you can be a witness of it to them in the way that you live. We are here to give support and encouragement to one another, so come here as often as you need the fellowship. Here are some links to what we have here at the forum.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
thirtyfour:
Hi again from Indiana...I appreciate all of the kind words and advice...This is just so different from the teaching of the Pentecostal church, which says we are to go out and bring people to Jesus so He can save them...What is really got me thinking is what in the world is speaking in tongues? I was baptised in 02 and when I came out of the water my tongue was going crazy and I had no control over what I was "saying"...Has anyone here ever spoke in tongues as they say? Also I noticed in 1 Tim at the beginning of the chapter it talks about praying for those in power over us so that we might live a peaceful life...just so opposite of the way I have been preached to for the last 8 yrs...Of course it is assumed that I have backslid and I have blasphemed the Holyghost because of my questions on tongues...Its crazy though for anyone who has spoken in tongues( only once for me) it takes control and you feel lifted up and happy...Not sure how to explain it but it seems good?...I am kind of babbling ( no pun intended) but man I have alot of questions and thoughts...Also 34 is not my age or my waistline but my favorite number mainly because of Walter Payton ( huge Bears fan) and as I got older I found that God uses 7 and 12 alot so 3+4= 7 and 3*4= 12...anyway it's my fav number for a few reasons...I have always been kind of a " weird guy" according to friends and family...I'm always questioning the "truth" as it has been presented to the masses...such as 9-11, vaccines, our food supply and what we should be eating...I know I'm going off topic but why do we drink cows milk?...Look at nature...Mammals feed their young for a couple of years and then they are weened...the same with humans, mothers feed their babies milk for a couple yrs and then they ween them...BUT here in the US we take another mammals milk ( cow, goat) and we drink it all of our lives and make our children drink it and have high profile stars with milk mustaches selling it to us...They say it's for the calcium...However upon researching this "fact" I found that Calcium cannot be "uploaded" into the cells without Magnesium of which milk has very little..also Calcium is thwarted by Phosphorous of which milk has a high amount...This is just one of many examples of things I have dug into and found that lies were being presented as truth and no one seemed to care but me..( also the Us has one of the highest Osteoporosis rates in the world)...try telling your family that milk is for the cows and you get something near the reaction of telling them hell is a hoax!!!! I apologize to anyone who is offended at my statements...I'm only trying to give a little insight to the type of person I am...Regardless We believe the same about our AWESOME GOD...thanks for the support...Josh
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