You make a valid point Duane.
One can pretty much run circles around them! They tie themselves up in the doctrines they preach.
We know what God says will happen to Gideon, Samson, David, Samuel and the prophets of the OT
Heb 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
Heb 11:34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.
Ask them and they have to say according to their false doctrines that they are all in Hell and that is Justice!
We know and believe
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
No one can be perfect while in a compromise with heresy or agreement with those corrupted false teachings of those who preach, believe, defend and approve of unending torment and damnation they assign to the nature to our God. Associations with those who hold on to their enjoyment of thinking God is going to make their enemies suffer such despicable agony, are soon dissolved when they find out we believe God will save everyone, not anyway, but through a mighty correction of chastising re-education that shall straighten out such diabolically evil beliefs. Well did Jesus say we would be persecuted and hated for Who we know and believe. Being hated and mis-understood, punished and rejected is praiseworthy sign post along the amazing way to perfection. We see the path but to them, it is not known and neither is it visible. This is according to the Plan and Purpose of our God working all things after the council of His own Will.
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