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gallenwalsh:
Any one have any thoughts as to whether spirit and emotions are different or the same ? I have heard the admonition to become spiritually mature and wonder if it is the same as becoming emotionally mature ? I have trouble separating the two.
Kat:
Hi Gallenwalsh,
Here is an excerpt that I think may help with this from Ray's letter to Kennedy.
http://bible-truths.com/kennedy2.htm -----------
The words "soul" and "spirit" have become corrupted through theology so that they are now used interchangeably, as if they were synonymous. They are not synonymous. There may be certain similarities between soul and spirit, but similarities do not make them one and the same.
The "soul" is the seat of sensation, consciousness, and feelings, not the body or the spirit. It is the spirit that imparts life to the body and the body then becomes a living soul (Gen. 2:7).
A thorough study of the word "soul" in the Scriptures proves that it is used of consciousness, feelings, and emotions. Hence, "sensation" is a good word to define its usage.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: gallenwalsh on August 02, 2010, 08:29:47 AM ---Any one have any thoughts as to whether spirit and emotions are different or the same ? I have heard the admonition to become spiritually mature and wonder if it is the same as becoming emotionally mature ? I have trouble separating the two.
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I think I understand what you are saying Gallenwalsh. Kat gives a good excerpt from Ray's paper, but I believe it's not exactly what you are asking. You may want to email Ray for clarification if so.
Kat, what I think Gallenwalsh is referring to are the fruits of the spirit: 'love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control'. These are spiritual qualities but they are also considered emotions. From an opposite view, anger & greed are said to be the 'works of the Devil' [John 8:44]. These are evil in spiritual nature but are considered emotions as well.
Gallenwalsh, are the examples above similar to what you are referring to? If not, maybe you can email Ray while using the quote that Kat gives and ask for clarification.
Hope this helps,
Marques
Deborah-Leigh:
--- Quote ---I have trouble separating the two.
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Right. Like EQ (Emotional Quotient) and IQ (Intellectual Quotient)
Intelligence without Wisdom, puffs up.
Without Love (God is Love) Without God and the Spirit of God, our highest wisdom is foolishness to God as a clanging bell, hollow victory, fools gold.
Arc
Kat:
Yes I can see now that excerpt does not really answer Gallenwalsh's question. But you mentioned something that I think does speak about spiritual maturity, the fruits of the spirit. In Luke 8 we have the parable of the sower, which I believe explains something about spiritual maturity. Those that do not continue to grow and the truth gets choked, and so "their fruit does not mature."
Luk 8:14 And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of life, and their fruit does not mature.
This chapter (Luke 08) also speaks of growing/maturing in the truth, which would in effect bring forth fruit of the spirit.
Luke 8:8 And other fell into the good ground, and grew, and brought forth fruit a hundredfold.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
v. 15 And as for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bring forth fruit with patience.
So I guess you can tell if you a growing towards maturity if you bare fruit; love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Paul goes on in chapter 12 to explain how to manifest these fruits in our lives.
Rom 12:9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.
v. 10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another;
v. 11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord;
v. 12 rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer;
v. 13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given to hospitality.
v. 14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.
v. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep.
v. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.
v. 17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men.
v. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men.
v. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord.
v. 20 Therefore
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head."
v. 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Hope that is more helpful.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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