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Water bearer?
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Daniel on June 30, 2006, 10:04:09 AM ---Great post Gary, and great insight Rocky and Mercie, amen.
Chris, have you considered that understanding is the wellspring of life and the Son of God is come to give us this understanding? Thats within ourselves. Afterall it wells up in our inmost being unto "eternal (or whichever word one chooses to use) life", and thats to "Know God".
That would be as a treasure in an earthen vessel. It also can be seen as one who is poured out as a drink offering. These having this indescrible gift within them (if only the woman at the well knew of).
HE is the fountain of living water and the drink to our souls and we are given one Spirit to drink.
Both the "lamb" (they eat) and "the living water" (they drink) are in the midst (the throne) where He feeds and cares for them.
Does seem to have validation here, yes He knows those that are His and knows their comings and their goings.
Peace
Daniel
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Hi Daniel,
No i never thought of that verse that way, and ..to be honest the living waters in which you speak of have nothing to do with this man carrying water to a place were Christ forenew.
These are physical acts, not spiritual acts, this man did not "spiritually" carry "spiritual" water, into a spiritual place, were then Christ had passover with his disciples. The scriptures are clear concerning just what the living waters are, there is no need to "hide" this message in a man carrying a pot of water.
But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. john 4:14.
Were do we get this water? [I SHALL GIVE HIM] What is this water? [THE SPIRIT OF GOD] is this water merely carried about in a pot? If so why is this water "in us" and not "on us".?
Yes it is true we must compare spiritual things with spiritual things, all scriptures are for our admonition and while i believe there is a lesson in this verse, it is certainly not a lesson about the "living waters of Christ"
This message is but one more lesson in the miraculous knowledge of the goings and comings of all men.
It is the same message given to the women at the well,
The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly Jhn 4:17-18
So tell me...were are these spiritual living waters in this miraculous knowledge that Christ had concerning this women at the well?
No doubt you will find 3 or 4 verses that have "five husbands" in them, and spin it into a spiritual lesson also.
Chris R
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Daniel on June 30, 2006, 11:23:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: orion77 on June 30, 2006, 10:49:18 AM ---Thanks everybody for the input. At first, when reading those verses, it's true to the glory of God that He would know of these things before they took place. Yet, also there could also be some hidden manna there in these words and actions.
Follow the one who gives out the Living Water, 8) Definetly the kind of water we would want to partake of. Very interesting connections, gives deeper meaning to His words in those verses. Thanks.
God bless,
Gary
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Amen Gary,
In following those who have the living water or understanding its to follow their "example" not them as Paul needed to rebuke them for, for all the wrong reasons.
Notice its not being a follower of men except to the point where their example and life exemplify that which speaks of their example, or behavior as they follow in the footsteps of Christ.
2Thes 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
2Thes 3:8 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
1Cr 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Cr 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Phil 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Interesting that the Lord puts it that way. You can find it speaking after their example in the right light. As Paul said, "watch your doctrine and your life" in that regard, in thhat those approved do become evident as God bears them witness, He sure does. Never mattered whether WE confess angels or not, but that HE confess YOU before THEM.
Peace
Daniel
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Daniel
God confesses US before ANGELS? perhaps i am misunderstanding you?
Know ye not that WE shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1Cr 6:3
Who is the "WE" in this verse?
Chris R
prarrydog:
Chris R
You said: "These are physical acts, not spiritual acts, this man did not "spiritually" carry "spiritual" water, into a spiritual place, were then Christ had passover with his disciples. The scriptures are clear concerning just what the living waters are, there is no need to "hide" this message in a man carrying a pot of water. "
Was it spiritual manna that fell from the sky? No, it was physical manna with a spiritual message. If you think that these physical stories are simply physical stories then we are all just reading a history book.
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
I am not saying that this is about living waters but I am saying that there is a spiritual message for us...here and now.
Chris R:
Yes prarydog,
I believe there is a spiritual lesson in all scripture, but non the less I dont beleive the mentioned scripture is about "living waters" that is if you beleive this man did not "literally" carry water in the pot at all?
Chris R
Daniel:
--- Quote from: Chris R on June 30, 2006, 09:55:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Daniel on June 30, 2006, 11:23:37 AM ---
--- Quote from: orion77 on June 30, 2006, 10:49:18 AM ---Thanks everybody for the input. At first, when reading those verses, it's true to the glory of God that He would know of these things before they took place. Yet, also there could also be some hidden manna there in these words and actions.
Follow the one who gives out the Living Water, 8) Definetly the kind of water we would want to partake of. Very interesting connections, gives deeper meaning to His words in those verses. Thanks.
God bless,
Gary
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Amen Gary,
In following those who have the living water or understanding its to follow their "example" not them as Paul needed to rebuke them for, for all the wrong reasons.
Notice its not being a follower of men except to the point where their example and life exemplify that which speaks of their example, or behavior as they follow in the footsteps of Christ.
2Thes 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;
2Thes 3:8 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
1Cr 4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Cr 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
Phil 3:17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
Interesting that the Lord puts it that way. You can find it speaking after their example in the right light. As Paul said, "watch your doctrine and your life" in that regard, in thhat those approved do become evident as God bears them witness, He sure does. Never mattered whether WE confess angels or not, but that HE confess YOU before THEM.
Peace
Daniel
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Daniel
God confesses US before ANGELS? perhaps i am misunderstanding you?
Know ye not that WE shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1Cr 6:3
Who is the "WE" in this verse?
Chris R
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Chris,
I was speaking on concerning worthless confessions while missing the picture
Acts 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.
Luke 12:8 Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:
Gotta go in a whole other direction on the other verse you just shared, and because we might have a difference in our seeing these things I would rather withold sharing on that Chris.
As for the above post, please take as you see it, if a pitcher be a pitcher, let a pitcher be a pitcher. No big deal.
Peace
Daniel
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