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dre91:
i need an honest answer. some people believe that jesus is michael the archangel because of what is written in 1thess. they say that the shout of the archangel is actually jesus' voice. there is only one commander of Gods army and that's jesus so that's why he's michael. that's what the guy told me. i thought since angels were created beings and jesus was begotten. it is written in scripture that jesus is the 1st born of all creation. the word was made flesh. does that mean he was the 1st created. i know that angels means messengers and an archangel is the chief of all the messengers. i know that God has never said to any of the messengers sit at my right hand till i make your enemies your footstool. that's what im confused about.

Kat:

Hi dre91,

Here is a email that Ray spoke about this a bit.

http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=3232.0 ------

 We need to be careful about using words like "mere" when referring to such as Michael the ARCHANGEL.  The "ANGEL OF THE LORD" mentioned so often in Scripture is more than mere!  Likewise Jesus is in every meaning of the word, a "Messenger--Angel" of His Father.  If ARCH- signifies the very highest, (and we have no other being called an ARCHangel in Scripture except Michael [which means LIKE GOD]), then just maybe Jesus IS THAT ARCHANGEL.

    God be with you, Roy,

    Ray

Aatos:
I've heard that Michael does mean 'Who is like God.'  but I've also heard that it's supposed to be in the form of a rhetorical question.  "Who is like God?"

Call me one of those people who doesn't believe that Michael and Jesus are the same being.

dre91:
is ray saying that jesus and michael are the same?

Samson:

--- Quote from: link=topic=12117.msg105223#msg105223 date=1282090149 ---I have always believed so. But then what do I know. I am learning every day. It will be good to hear from those more well versed than us.
Blessings

--- End quote ---

Hi Janine,

             As a former JW, we were taught that Jesus and Michael the Archangel were synonymous. Of course, that in itself doesn't mean it's true or false. Ray in that Email Posted by Kat seems to indicate that He leans towards that understanding. Aside from1Thess. 4:16(voice of an Archangel, etc.), there are Scriptures in Daniel that might add weight to this interpretation. Daniel. 12:1. Michael is mentioned in connection with a great time of distress that had not yet occurred. (Jude 9)Michael had a dispute with the Devil regarding Moses body. We know that God hid Moses Body, the Israelites were incapable of using Moses Body in Idolatrous Worship. What happened to Moses body might be a shadow of what happened to Jesus Body. There was no way anyone was able to use Jesus Body in false Worship, just like Moses. Michael is mentioned in connection with the establishment of God's Kingdom(Rev. 7-12) and We all know Jesus is the King.

Strong's. 4317 Miykael-Heb(Michael) Who like God; Mikael, the name of an Archangel. Mikh-ah-ale'(Greek), An Archangel.

 I'm certain that we had a thread like this before, not too long ago, within two years past, some of the newer forum members might want to examine that Thread, too.

                            Kind Regards, Samson.

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