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Craig:
We need to step back and realize God is in charge.  He knows how many days we have left and that Ray has left.  And the cure is God, not our taking silver or chemo, etc. 

Does anyone really think that "supplements to take that will certainly cure him, no questions asked." is really true??  If any supplement or a particular medicine really cured cancer then we would not be plagued by cancer today.  Don't say that the "establishment" is keeping a lid on this, if a cure for cancer really existed then it would get out and be used by the masses.  Doctors kids and families die from cancer, the rich and powerful and their loved ones die from cancer, the pharmaceutical companies families and loved ones die of cancer.  If a cure existed then their families would not die of cancer and in this age of information we would all know about it too..  Sure people who have been declared incurable have been cured and it was not because they took supplements.  I know 2 people who recovered completely from cancer after being given no hope and they did not take supplements or change diet or anything, the doctors shrug and declare a miracle.  It may be a miracle but God is the cause!.  GOD IS IN CONTROL!

Thousands if not millions claim and believe that faith healers such as Benny Hinn and others cure cancer and every other form of ailment, but if you try and verify this the proof does not exist.  As Dennis said, Ray has been using colloidal silver and sodium carbonate for years, and he appears to be getting worse.  If they "will certainly cure him" this would not be happening.   I have watched a handful of friends and family who have also been stricken by cancer and tried these treatments and all but one has died.  God is the healer not these supplements or cures.  If God forbid I was stricken with incurable cancer today and went on a diet of turnips and was suddenly cured, I would be telling everybody that turnips cured cancer.  If a person I told tried turnips and was cured and they told people and they were cured, it would not be long before all the world was eating turnips and being cured of cancer.  But if others ate turnips and die then my hypothesis would be wrong.  But if 3 people out of 100 ate turnips and was cured they would generate just enough hype to keep these stories going, while not considering the real cure was that God had willed them to live, God was the cure, they could have ate brownies and been cured.

I will admit, that I wish the "establishment" would spend more research money trying to find a cure rather than a treatment.  But cures do not make money like treatment does.  I can guarantee this, if God wants mankind to develop a cancer cure it will happen, as He has done for many diseases in history.  If God directs anyone to try supplements and diets then do it, He may use these things to help the body fight and be cured or to prolong a persons life, but using a supplement or diet and taking God out of the equation will never work, because God is the equation.

Craig

gmik:
Very timely....my very active 83 year old father was just diagnosed w/ stage 2 lung cancer.  He has been given a fairly good prognosis but still has to endure 6 weeks of chemo/radiation.

I tell him I am praying for him but I know it is of course in God's hands completely.

Good thoughts Craig.

musicman:
Well, I do eat a lot of brownies Craig.  It does work.

arion:
All is of God.  All the medical knowledge that man has and all the learning that the herbalists and those like Dr. Steger have learned is also of God.  Certainly there are a lot of 'snake oil' salesmen around as well as those willing to purchase the latest miracle.  Yet, that doesn't diminish or take aught away from learning to take care of yourself the best that you can.  There is a balance in all things.  I could sit back, fold my arms and do nothing to take care of myself and adopt a fatalistic attitude over things.   Nothing that I do makes a difference so why even try?  If I had such an attitude with my walk with God  then why would I pray, read the scriptures or listen to the teachings we find here?

The way I look at it is that I will learn and do everything I can to take care of myself spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically and then leave the results to God.  I'm not a health 'nut' but I do supplement and put into practices some of the things that Ray has learned from Dr. Steger.  I want to live as long and as healthy as I can but of course God may have other plans and that's o.k.  It's a conundrum because there are those who have never paid any attention to their health and live like the proverbial pig and have never had a sick day in their life.  They smoke, drink, and never exercise and yet they seem to do well.  On the other hand there are those who have done all the 'right things' and yet they are struck down early with cancer or hit by a bus and are killed.  Let God be God.  I don't want to be fatalistic about things but neither do I wish to let the pendulum swing to the other extreme either.

grapehound:
Dear Craig,

I thank our God for blessing you with such copious amounts of insight and common sense.
Refreshing stuff.

Love in Jesus

Grape

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