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RRHinds:
Dear Bretheren, there seems to be some disagreements to the word of God if we can see him or not. I believe that we can. In Genesis chapter one God clearly says, "Let us make man (human beings) in our image" Gen:1 26. If we are the Image of whome made us then they do have a body, I say they because God did say let us and not let me make man in our and not my image. (food for thought) Also in Gen:3 verse 8 onwards, God is walking in the garden and was looking for Adam and Eve who had hidden themselves from God because they were naked. When they showed themselves God himself spoke to them face to face. Also at the very beginning of the Bible it states that the spirit of God was hovering over the waters, which is strange if God is only Spirit how does a spirit have a spirit. We are made of Body, Spirit and Soul, so if we were made in the exact image of God then he too has a body spirit and soul.
There are more verses in the Bible that proves God shows himself to whome ever he pleases. I myself when I gave my life to him I saw Christ in the flesh.
God bless you all.
Kat:
Hi RRHinds,
When you come here and make statements of what you to believe to be true, it is not for us to try to change what you believe. We are here studying what we believe to be true and there is no disagreement on the Word of God, we use it complete as the final authority on everything we believe.
But unless you have studied what we believe to be true to some degree, how can you disagree with what we believe by these few posts here? You make mention of some quote from Genesis that we have studied in great depth in the articles here. Everything that is taught on the BT site and here is backed up by a multitude of Scripture. It would be a very good idea for you to study what is presented here before you make accusations about what we believe.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
RRHinds:
Hi John
I can only tell you what happened at my conversion. There were about 15 to 20 Christian Brothers and Sisters in the room they were all singing and praising God. I up till then only knew the protestant way of worship, with dull hyms without life. Now these people were claiming that Jesus was alive and was in the room. I scepticaly started singing with them, but in my mind I was laughing at them, when suddenly the room was an empty black space, I looked down at my feet and could see that my left foot was ligering over a gapping hole, and if I took one more step I was going to fall right into it, I then heard a soft warm voice call out my name. I turned around and saw a man with long golden hair and a long golden beard. He was holding his hands out to me and said it is me you are laughing at. I just knew then that this was Jesus Christ the Son of the most high God who was calling me. I do not remember much after that as I was slain in the spirit. The next day the people told me that I prased theLord all night and was even baptised with the Holy spirit and spoke in tounges. They said that I my body glowed all night too. That is all I remember. Just remeber this my good friend, He can show himself as he wants to whome ever he wants to. He might appear to you as the beggar on the corner of your street, you never Know.
God bless.
RRHinds:
I did not mean to sound arogant, if it came across that way, please forgive me, but I have studied the word for over 30 years. I have been to many congresses; I have watched hundreds of hours on the television with inumerous preachers and Teachers of the word. I have studied many topics that Ray has written, but as all the other teaching I agree with some and do not agree with others. I have a very close and personal relationship with God. I have had many strong spiritual encounters with God and also with the evil one. Many sipritual battles. I have seen many things that would make the hair grow on the back of the most dedicated Christian. I have seen spirits roaming the streets and in houses amongst many other things. I am by far not perfect, but I like to believe what is in the Bible and not interpretations or translations by this scholar or that scholar just because he or she has a degree in theology (this does by no means include Ray) Humans are prone to making mistakes. I prefer to listen to the Spirit and understand from Him what is right or what is wrong.
So as to not cause anymore problems I think I shall keep quiet and just read the topics from now on.
arion:
--- Quote ---Ray:
I was on www.aionios.com listening to your audio "How Hard is Getting Saved?" part1. Near the start you comment on Genesis 1:26 and that God 'created' man (past tense) is incorrect. You claim that it really says 'creating'. I have checked all the translations and interlinears that I have and can find nothing that supports your claim. Everything I have found says 'created'. Please can you provide me with a source or other proof to backup your claim.
Thanks,
Wes
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Dear Wes:
The truth is that most Versions are not interesting in translating "THAT" PRECISE. Since we exist today, it is carelessly assumed that the creation act was completed back in the garden. Here are the words from a Hebrew Interlinear: "uibra = and-he-is-creating / aleim - Elohim [God] / eadm ath = the-human / btzimu = in-image-of-him / btzim = in-image-of / aleim =
Elohim [God] / bra = he-creates / athu = him / zkr = male / unqbe = and-female / bra= he-creates / athm = them."
"And creating is the Alueim humanity in His image. In the image of the Alueim He creates it. Male and female He creates them" (Concordant Literal Old Testament).
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2378.0.html
Something also to consider RR is that obviously Adam and Eve sinned....no? If Adam & Eve were made (past tense) in the image of God then the inescapable conclusion must be that the image of God can sin!! Do you really want to go there? More food for thought.
God Bless and welcome to the forum.
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