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physical pain/emotional pain and judgement
grapehound:
Well said Dawidos, thank you Brother. :)
wonderment:
I know there aren't any scriptures that answer any of these questions specifically but are there any scriptures that denote what the second death will be like for the wicked? Like what kinds of judgements they will have to go through after they are resurrected as flesh? It's hard for me to imagine all the non-believing dead coming back as their same flesh. What about small children and infants? Is everyone resurrected at the same time? Wouldn't that lead to overpopulation of the Earth? Will people who died of illness be vivified with the same illness? Will they have the knowledge that they are being judged for the sake of their own righteousness? Will this whole process potentially take a very long aion? I have so many questions about this... sorry
Deborah-Leigh:
Don't be sorry wonderment....take one step at a time....first of all...EVERYTHING is not literal as we understand at first. At first, everything we hear and see, seems to us to be physical and literal. God is Spirit and God doesn't speak to us with meanings that are meant to be taken literally.
If you begin by reading the LOF part one...then, step by step...God willing He will show you what HE MEANS and take you away from literal understandings.
It takes His Spirit to understand anything about God. You wouldn't be asking anything if God were not causing you to ask! 8)
To answer your question quote : .......are there any scriptures that denote what the second death will be like for the wicked?......Yes....there are many many scriptures....death is described in many places throughout the Scriptures that show the pain and agony of not knowing God.
The Good News is that the deaths and terrible conditions that have to be experienced as God teaches us to know the difference between good and evil, is temporary. Good shall overcome evil and life will overcome death....God is the Victory of all that is good, wholesome and of good report for God is Life and God is Good. God is Love.
Blessings
Arc
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: wonderment ---I know there aren't any scriptures that answer any of these questions specifically but are there any scriptures that denote what the second death will be like for the wicked? Like what kinds of judgements they will have to go through after they are resurrected as flesh? It's hard for me to imagine all the non-believing dead coming back as their same flesh. What about small children and infants? Is everyone resurrected at the same time? Wouldn't that lead to overpopulation of the Earth? Will people who died of illness be vivified with the same illness? Will they have the knowledge that they are being judged for the sake of their own righteousness? Will this whole process potentially take a very long aion? I have so many questions about this... sorry
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I'm almost 100 percent certain Ray answers all these questions you have in his papers. You would do very well to take Arcturus' advice, which is to read them lake of fire series. ;)
Here is a teaser to one of your questions. :D From: http://www.bible-truths.com/lake16-D5.htm
THE SECOND DEATH
It's time for another one of those enigmatic Scriptures that sound very simple, but are difficult to harmonize with all Scriptures compare "spiritual with spiritual" and believe Jesus when He tells us that His "words ARE spirit" (John 6:63). Here is that enigmatic statement:
"And as it is appointed unto men [Gk: 'anthropose'--human, mankind] once to die, but after this the judgment"
This Scripture is all-encompassing, universal, and applies to every human who has ever lived. All humanity must die once, and after that death, they must be judged. There are no exceptions, not even for mentally challenged, teens, youngsters and even infants. (Do sound-minded Christians really believe that when babies die they go to heaven and therefore, there will be millions of eternal babies [in diapers?] living in heaven for all eternity AS BABIES?) God has a way to deal with babies and infants in the Day of Judgment that will be quite equitable......
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I know there is a lot to read, but it so worth the time. I have personally read and re-read most of Ray's papers at least 3 or 4 times, and I still find something new every time.
Here is one more where Ray speaks of the judgment of those that blaspheme the Holy Spirit. Where they say the work of God is the work of the devil.
http://www.bible-truths.com/email15.htm
If you don't repent of you blasphemy now, Lisa, one day you will be literally "TORMENTED in the presence of the Lamb." This UN-repented sin of yours will torment you more than words can ever describe when you are faced with it IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LAMB OF GOD! You will wish that you could DIE. But you won't be able to die; you must face your sins, and they WILL TORMENT YOU HORRIBLY! You absolutely will not be able to believe that you ever ever would say such damnable things about those who write on the Goodness of God. Think long and hard about what you are doing in your casual, flippant, sarcastic, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous attitude.
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I sincerely hope this will encourage you to read Ray's papers and double check in Scriptures to see if what Ray says is true.
Peace
G.Driggs
"It will not be a walk in the park for any of them" L. Ray Smith on the righteous judgment of God
Deborah-Leigh:
Excellent contribution G.Driggs 8) :)
Blessings brothers
Arc
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