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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on October 26, 2010, 05:53:10 AM ---Hey, I was hoping I could get some prayer from anyone who doesn't feel burdened remembering me anytime at all. I'm dealing with great struggles against the flesh, and I mean those struggles a man deals with... when his hormones rage like their is no tomorrow. I can't stand it, I know its not who I want to be, I know its not me, but I am absolutely powerless and even thats an understatement. I've tried time and time again, i'm constantly overcome. I've prayed for hours upon end, for months and months, years now. I feel like I've been thrown into a spiritual prison by the Lord. I want out.
Absolutely tired and tired of this, tired of wanting it one moment, then hating myself for having wanted it or done it the next. I feel like i'm absolutely bent and twisted upside down inside, the only thing that makes sense are pauls words... That which I want, I do not do and that which I do , I do not want... Ugh.. what a contradictive mess of desires I am!
I can't stand it, in my heart of hearts I want the Lord to reign over this temple and destroy this beast yet I find myself embracing the flesh at every temptation of it...
Prayers please.... Thank you.
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Hey Alex, welcome back to the forum.
Lusting after women is a daily urge of the flesh. It doesn't go away when you get married, if you isolate yourself from society, or attempt to obey the Lord. Like you said, it is like a prison that men are in, and it is an almost lifetime sentence. But this judgment has a just Judge: Jesus Christ who will see you through.
Luke 4:18-19 The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me [Jesus], because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
You mentioned Paul, who said he had a 'war in his members/body warring against his mind' [Rom 7:23]. It's all about what we think on. 'As a man thinks, so he is'.
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Phil 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things
1 Tim 4:12-13, 15-16 Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit, in faith, in purity. Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine...Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all. Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.
One of the biggest problems with dealing with sin is: We don't think about WHY it is wrong. The church simply teaches 'it's wrong because God said so'. But WHY did He say so. Fornication or lustful thoughts, just like any other sin, if you can't understand WHY God says not to do it, it will always feel utterly impossible to overcome.
1 Cor 6:15-20 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? (even in thought: As a man thinks, so HE IS) For “the two,” He says, “shall become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.
It's about giving God glory, IN YOUR BODY and IN YOUR SPIRIT. Your thoughts and actions. If we continue to say to ourselves "I don't want to think this, I don't want to think this", we will always fail because our carnality DOES want to think those thoughts. We must have the greater desire to 'glorify God in our bodies and spirit'. The desire to serve and obey the Lord has to grow and become bigger than our carnal thoughts...that's what overcoming is all about. And our Lord knows all about overcoming, in and through us:
John 16:33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation [warring in our members and mind]; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.
Hope this helps,
Marques
Kat:
Hi Alex,
So glad to have you back at the forum, I've missed you :)
You are a young man and I can understand how it would be hard not to revel in your youth. Maybe you should evaluate things in your life and see where you might need to make changes. Right now you need to make little baby steps, just try to start to make positive changes. Think about the places you go, if you hang out in places that lead to sinnful behavior, well... If all of your friends are living their lives in the way that you have come to despise, maybe you need to seriously reconsider who you hang around with. Even if you don't stick to a change you have made, don't give up! You know the saying; if at first you don't succeed try, try again? This is so true, NEVER give up! Bad habits are never easy to break, maybe it's God way to make us so glad to get rid of it we will never go back. If you do try and make changes, find some positive habits/hobbies to replace the bad ones with. Don't just stop doing things and sit around and feel sorry for yourself, find something else to do. This is just my attempt to be helpful, but it's only my opinion, not knowing the many details of your life.
I would also say that Grape's advice to, "Keep praying; constantly, all day long. Make it a habit. Make it an obsession. Talk with Him, talk, talk,talk. Let it be the reason you're even awake." I think this is the best advice of all, as it is God who will give you the strength you need to overcome and make the changes.
Hang in there Alex, you are a work in progress, as we all are. I know from your past posts that you know and believe this truth, this is a very high calling, we all have "to count the cost' and give up our very lives in order to follow Chirst.
Luke 14:25 Now great multitudes went with Him. And He turned and said to them,
v. 26 "If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.
v. 27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.
Yes we have to give it all up, but let's not forget why.
1Co 2:6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
v. 7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
v. 8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
v. 9 But as it is written:
"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him."
Yes the reward is only for a very few, it is so great it can not be compared to anything in this life... just think about it.
Rev 15:2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire, and those who have the victory over the beast, over his image and over his mark and over the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, having harps of God.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Rene:
Welcome back to the forum, Alex.
I can only imagine the trial you are suffering, but I am encouraged that you have returned here for prayer and guidance. I just want you to remember that you are powerless to change your heart or desires, however, God can and will enable you to overcome if that is His will in your life at this time.
I will be praying for you.
René
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on October 26, 2010, 05:53:10 AM ---Hey, I was hoping I could get some prayer from anyone who doesn't feel burdened remembering me anytime at all. I'm dealing with great struggles against the flesh, and I mean those struggles a man deals with... when his hormones rage like their is no tomorrow. I can't stand it, I know its not who I want to be, I know its not me, but I am absolutely powerless and even thats an understatement. I've tried time and time again, i'm constantly overcome. I've prayed for hours upon end, for months and months, years now. I feel like I've been thrown into a spiritual prison by the Lord. I want out.
Absolutely tired and tired of this, tired of wanting it one moment, then hating myself for having wanted it or done it the next. I feel like i'm absolutely bent and twisted upside down inside, the only thing that makes sense are pauls words... That which I want, I do not do and that which I do , I do not want... Ugh.. what a contradictive mess of desires I am!
I can't stand it, in my heart of hearts I want the Lord to reign over this temple and destroy this beast yet I find myself embracing the flesh at every temptation of it...
Prayers please.... Thank you.
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Women have no idea what many young men go through. None.
Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
We are spirit and we are animals. We are subject to the instincts and drives of animals.
In some of the animal world the males fight to the death for the right to reproduce. This is a powerful force. You are not going to overcome this with your will. Not going to happen.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Here is your answer:
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---He makes women attractive to us, then He tells us not to lust after them
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Exactly!
We are here to learn that we cannot control our own bodies, let alone run this planet. As Rene' pointed out, we have no control or power over anything.
We are also victims of chemistry.
When I was 58 I didn't think I would live to be my current age of 67. I knew I would be dead by now.
Then I discovered "Super Miraforte" (sold at http://lef.org) which turns free estrogen (bad for men) into testosterone. And in a few days I had my life back.
But I also had all my lusts back.
So I can overcome my lust by not taking my vitamins and supplements and die soon, or I can feel a lot better and live with my lusts. I decided on the latter.
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