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Deborah-Leigh:


Well said Longhorn!  8)

Blessings brother
Arc

lostANDfound:
so you're saying that at our appointed time we'll want our enemies to suffer, and our enemies are :

Matt 5:18-19  ...those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.

2 Cor 10:4-5  For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God (aka spiritual) for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ

1 Cor 9:27  I discipline my body ("those things which proceed out of the heart" - Matt 5:18) and bring it into subjection...

i'm not trying to be exasperating here, but everything you're all saying makes sense to me except the part where i'll want my enemies to suffer.  and my enemies are basically the evil thoughts and actions coming from my heart.  i'll want the evil-ness in me to suffer?  it seems more appropriate to think i'll want the evil-ness in me to be destroyed.  am i just getting stuck on a technicality here?

THANKS!

(and i'm thinking of changing my name to lostANDjust-beginning-to-be-found)   :-[

mmijares:
Hi LostANDFound!

David was not converted (as Ray taught us).

The Old Testament's morality was not perfect.  We can read scores of them right in the first five books of the Bible.  Only when Christ came we understand the perfect morality.

Knowing and understanding what Christ has said is the BEST WAY "to sort it out."

-Mij

judith collier:
Yrs.ago I used to pray David's psalms when I was angry because, well, it helped. I'm talking the destuction kind here.
My youngest daughter was in Cal. staying with my sister and her husband. She was having an extremely hard time finding work in her profession, just having graduated college, and was very depressed, so much so my sister had no influence. My brother-in-law could be a pain with his intellectual lawyer ways and no understanding of a young girl. I could just see him pointing out FACTS as if what he surmised was true.
I prayed the psalms, the really get down mean ones with all my passion and fury and directed them at My brother-in-law. I called for his influence to be strangled around his head and every other idea I got out of the psalms. I prayed for my daughter for 6 hours on my knees as I was desperate as a mother and I would have done anything to bind up dishearting words and my brother-in-law.
I prayed with everything in me and  the next morning my sister called and they had an aftermath quake in Northridge where they lived. Their bedroom wall was split in two and my sister said it was as though the devil came up out of hell into their room. I said. "Glory be to God"
My daughter having lived through a quake was snappd out of her depression and went on to win about $25,000.00 on the PRICE IS RIGHT and came home!!
I wondered if my prayer, having been so heartfelt and with the rightiousness of Christ, had anything to do with it all. I opened my bible with a quick flip and read the words, "when the Lord walks on the earth, the earth  trembles" No one will ever convince me my prayer wasn't answered.
Judy

Deborah-Leigh:

--- Quote ---i'll want the evil-ness in me to suffer?
--- End quote ---

LostANDfound~ :)

It is more like you will suffer the evilness in you to depart. Compulsions or addictions require the Spirit of God to break their oppressive hold.
Evil happens to us. Evil happens because of us. Both have to be overcome.

Judy~ :)

What a mighty outcry God caused you to pray!

As Ray points out, when we are caused to pray, we’d better get ready for God to do something wonderful! Ray doesn’t say it in those words. That’s how I understand what prayer can herald!
 
Blessings
Arc

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