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Foxx:

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Foxx,

Very nice the way you laid this Parable out, thanks for sharing your Insight.

george.


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Thanks George! That really means a lot. I'm glad that it was of use. God bless!

Foxx:
I had been putting this off but I wanted to add something to this in regards to the word "torment". I recently learned that the word "torment" comes from the word "basamos" which is the Greek word for a Touchstone. For those who don't know what a touchstone is exactly, it is a stone that is used to test the quality of a piece of gold. Jewelers still use them to this day. They would rub the gold on the touchstone then apply an acid I believe to determine its worth. The words torture, torment, etc all came from this word basamos. It is the same word used in Revelations and in this parable that Jesus provided. Anyway, just thought I would add this for you guys! Thanks!

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: Foxx on January 22, 2011, 10:37:09 AM ---I had been putting this off but I wanted to add something to this in regards to the word "torment". I recently learned that the word "torment" comes from the word "basamos" which is the Greek word for a Touchstone. For those who don't know what a touchstone is exactly, it is a stone that is used to test the quality of a piece of gold. Jewelers still use them to this day. They would rub the gold on the touchstone then apply an acid I believe to determine its worth. The words torture, torment, etc all came from this word basamos. It is the same word used in Revelations and in this parable that Jesus provided. Anyway, just thought I would add this for you guys! Thanks! 

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Hi Foxx,

This is exactly the kind of stuff that gets the old juices flowing, or perhaps I should say gets my attention and curiosity piqued...

As I began to look into this a bit I found (ironically?) that there was a segue into Lamentations (an item of recent interest to me), the book that is authored by Jeremiah (under divine influence of course) and is an incredible combination of hope, retribution, empathy, fear, forgiveness, love, hate and all the other things that comprise our journey and interaction with all our brothers and sisters (family, world, church, and BT etc.) here in this earthly experience.

Have a look at this;

Lam 4:2  The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold, how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!

The Potter!

Isa 64:8  But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

In the KJV the word "torment" only appears in the NT and as you brought out it is primarily translated from the Greek word "basanizō" which in the Strong's/Esword variety only gives secondary definitions such as;

G928
βασανίζω
basanizō
bas-an-id'-zo
From G931; to torture: - pain, toil, torment, toss, vex.

But if we go to the Lexicon we find the number 1 or primary definition is;

1) to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the colour of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal
2) to question by applying torture
3) to torture
4) to vex with grievous pains (of body or mind), to torment
5) to be harassed, distressed
a) of those who at sea are struggling with a head wind

5a is interesting but a whole other subject...

The only time we see "torment" in the NT from a different Greek root is in 1John.

1Jn 4:18  There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment.G2851 He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

G2851
κόλασις
kolasis
kol'-as-is
From G2849; penal infliction: - punishment, torment.

We could read that as being fearful is like being in a prison.

Very interesting stuff to say the least. Here is some info on "touchstone" ...

A touchstone is a small tablet of dark stone such as fieldstone, slate, or lydite, used for assaying precious metal alloys. It has a finely grained surface on which soft metals leave a visible trace.

Thanks for stirring and inspiring this study,

Joe

     

 

cjwood:
just got my computer back after a few days.  this thread and the post replies are so appetizing that i am watering at the mouth thinking about all the wonders of our LORD that have been brought out in these words of His Spirit through His children here.

gotta go to bed now.
claudia

dave:
Great post Foxx and everyone else! Beautifull, for me it just brings His Love into a greater focus. He is so wonderful. :)

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