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HOW CAN WE LOVE "IN SPIRIT"?
newborn:
Thanks for all your thoughts...
It came to my interest because I am a person who wants to do everything
WITH PURPOSE.
If we want to achieve something, say like have a dream car, dream house,
travel around the world. WE WILL NOT STRIVE TO GO THRU THE HARDSHIPS
AND WORK, IF WE DON'T DESIRE TO "END RESULT".
That's what I'm doing right now, I AM LOOKING FOR THE REWARD AT THE
END, so I will be motivated always and FORGET ALL THE HARDSHIPS THAT
I AM EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW.
This is a tough life, a tough test...
This is the greatest challenge of our lives, THE GREATEST DISCIPLINE.
I've excelled academically... I want to be the best.
I've excelled athletically, in sports.
I've excelled in my career....
All this require discipline and a lot of patience and training...
It's hard... BUT..
BUT... MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THE GREATEST CHALLENGE FOR
ME AND US (IN MY OPINION) IS THE TEST GOD IS GIVING US.
I've find it relatively easier to accomplish anything physical and in this
world.
But the "spiritual discipline" THIS IS THE GREATEST CHALLENGE.
I HAVE NEVER FOUGHT THE MOST CHALLENGING TEST IN MY LIFE.
It's so tough, it's feels like this is the only battle I almost CAN'T WIN.
It's not like studying...you can rest..
It's not like sports...you don't do it everyday...
It's not like your career... it's only 8 hrs. a day...
IT'S AS LONG AS YOU'RE AWAKE, ALIVE... YOU HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING.
THERE IS NO RESTING, EVERYWHERE YOU GO, THERE IS A CHALLENGE.
It's the toughest challenge ever!
This I know I can't do by myself...
Only God can help me overcome this world...
I am still hopeful, I am looking forward to HIS PROMISE.
Thank you all for your LOVE!
Thanking God for the support I am having here ;-)
GODBLESS US ALL!
dave:
--- Quote from: Kat on January 06, 2011, 04:58:21 PM ---
Hi newborn,
This is something that has peaked my interest for a long time. To me the spiritual has to do with how we feel, what's in our heart, our attitude. We of course use these feelings in our physical manifestations now, but too often the carnal draws us towards the negative character traits, instead of the positive. When we enter the kingdom the physical will be gone and the carnal along with it and we will be united/one with God. I can see how we could very well show positive feelings (love, joy, kindness) to each other when we are spirit.
I am beginning to see how this physical is so limited and temporary. When God is all in all the spiritual will only be limited by God having removed the evil from it. How great will that be!! So it's hard to imagine, but I think there will be endless or ever expanding opportunities to experience. Just think with all the different personalities in the individual people that will be operating in the family of God, there are limitless possibilities.
Imagine how thrilling it will be to share things with another brother or sister. It would be an act of love to visit and share these things. If we are an Elect we may want to share an experience we had with those still in physical form with another Elect. What about those experiences we will be involved with concerning the wonders God has yet to show us? I don't think we will all be doing the same thing at the same time, so we might seek out someone to visit with and share with them some of the wonders we may have participated in. Just think if you ever got around to speaking to all the different humans about there experiences, well then everyone will continue to have more experiences that you could share with them anew, over and over and over again.
My my it just makes you so eager to see God put all things under His feet :D
Rev 22:20 He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming quickly."
Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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EXCITING is the WORD! :)
Kat:
Hi Newborn,
I certainly know what you are saying and totally agree.
Hi John,
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
v. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed--
v. 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.
John 4:24 God is Spirit...
John 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
v. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
2Co 5:1 For we know that if the tent that is our earthly home is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
v. 2 For in this tent we groan, longing to put on our heavenly dwelling,
1Pe 1:4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
Mat 25:34 Then the King will say to those on His right hand, "Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Php 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
What it appears to me is that those in the first resurrection will join Christ in heaven and as spirit beings that will be their home from then on. The way I am understanding this is those that are spirit can not be seen by physical humans, unless they manifest to them in a human form. I think of Jesus Christ after His resurrection and how He was not 'living' on earth, but appeared to the disciples in human form from time to time. So this is how I would think it would be for those changed to spirit in the first resurrection. So it just seems to me that the Elect would be as Christ was then, with their home in heaven with God. But they would return to earth as much as need be. But I don't think they will even always 'appear,' but sometimes would just speak without appearing.
Isa 30:20 And Jehovah gives you the bread of adversity and the water of affliction; yet your teachers shall not be removed into a corner any more, but your eyes shall see your teachers.
v. 21 And your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, This is the way, walk in it, when you turn to the right hand and when you turn to the left.
Anyway that is just some of the things that I have picked up form the Scripture and thought I would share with you.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
DougE6:
Just for the science fiction or geeks among us, have you ever watched the original star trek series, the episode called “Errand of Mercy” The parallels to the role of the future role of the Overcomers on Earth that Kat just described is truly eerie. If you have 40 minutes to kill, have a watch. You wont see the point I am saying till the end, but I think it is a fun watch and worth it, it is interesting, the parallel. Just a little side note, for fun.
Here are all 5 parts links from you tube of the original show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXGK9F3Qvx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm2JtEwLoxI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FYjl_KAvKU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOS7BJwLlL4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fBtd2EnCw&feature=related
newborn:
Thanks Kat... :-)
Just want to share my favorite verses.. ;-)
"If you remain in Me, and My words in you, you shall ask whatever you want, and it will be given unto you.."
"Seek thee first thy Kingdom of God (spiritual), and all these things (physical) shall be added unto you"
"Perfect Love drives away fear,
for fear has to do with punishment.
He who fears does not know Perfect Love"
Grace be with us all
--remo
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