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did some people existed b4 adam was created?
Kat:
I think our way of thinking about a thing can be so set and intertwined with what we believe that we resist having this upset and overturned. Just like the church is resistant about learning the truth, because it does not go along we what they always believed. This is very evident from all we have learned here about the truth and this thing about man should not be any different.
Hi Bob, it sounds like you are asking if the people that were on earth at the time that Adam was formed were sub-human or something, with no language or skills what so ever. I know you are just asking question that come to mind.
What it appears to me is that God created humans at a much earlier time and these were relatively intelligent people and had the ability to reason and think and learn. They obviously did not know God or walked with Him like Adam did, but I don't think He left them to be as animals with no skills and language. I think we have some very good examples of what these people were like in the tribal people that live around the world right now.
Cain probably married one of the women that was not from his (Adam) line. I do not think that he would have taken as his wife a woman that was some kind of dumb brute that could not even communicate with him other than to grunt ;)
I think with Adam's line God was now going to introduce sophistication into the world. That would at a much more rapid pace bring us to where we are today.
Olasupo, I would think that Adam is the line of human that God formed at the time in which He determined to deal directly with mankind. It is this line of human that He uses to explain how He is working His plan of salvation. There were other groups of people around the world that are never mentioned in the Bible, only those that came in direct contact with those people that He chose to deal with. Just because they came before Adam does not make them less human, nor does it make them any less a part of His plan of salvation.
Adam was Representative of all mankind, the sin in the garden was a representation that all are subject to the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. Adam was just the individual that represents mankind and how God started working directly with mankind and explaining His plan of salvation through, because we still have and use that story today.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
olasupo jacobs:
thanks a lot Kat... am beginning to see the big picture....Jesus made reference to those not of this fold whom his father has given him and he would save....may be this creations b4 Adam are one of them,,,, more so i like the idea that it was thru Adam God began to unfold His grandest plan of salvation for all his creations,,,, of a certainty He is the father of Spirits of whom EVERY FAMILY IN HEAVEN & EARTH is named from....and all creation shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption by Him who subjected it in HOPE.....
remain blessed Kat and forum members
ps: am beginning to know why Cain was strongly afraid they might Kill him...if Only Adam,Eve.Cain & Abel existed then
Dennis Vogel:
There is an abundance of hard evidence of human beings existing 100,000 or more years ago. Some say millions of years ago.
Since God "cannot lie" this is not some sort of trick where God fools us into believing a lie, else that would make God a deceiver/liar.
Also, these beings buried their dead. Dumb brutes do not bury their dead.
Craig:
Folks the email that Ray posted touched on some things that only Ray can explain better. We can discuss this here, but we need to be careful on speculating about things Ray did not touch on. If you have questions you can email him directly, if his health allows he can answer you. I don't want this to become a point of strife on the forum.
Craig
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: Craig on January 27, 2011, 04:51:04 AM ---Folks the email that Ray posted touched on some things that only Ray can explain better. We can discuss this here, but we need to be careful on speculating about things Ray did not touch on. If you have questions you can email him directly, if his health allows he can answer you. I don't want this to become a point of strife on the forum.
Craig
--- End quote ---
Sometimes I go too far, and Im pretty sure Ray hasn't taught about what I asked. Sorry my mistake. Still pretty cool there were people before Adam and Eve.
Did I imagine it where Ray said something like God did something different with Adam an Eve compared to the people created before? I could not find where I thought Ray said that.
G.Driggs
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