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dave:
Joh 6:63  the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life;
Just what is spirit? I know that spirit is more solid and dense than a rock. I know that it is more real than a river flowing or a hot wind blowing.
Faith has more substance than earth when its dug up, so just what is spirit.... other than I AM?

daywalker:

--- Quote from: micah7:9 on March 11, 2011, 10:03:50 PM ---Joh 6:63  the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life;
Just what is spirit? I know that spirit is more solid and dense than a rock. I know that it is more real than a river flowing or a hot wind blowing.
Faith has more substance than earth when its dug up, so just what is spirit.... other than I AM?

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GOD IS SPIRIT (Jn 4:24) and SPIRIT IS LIFE. (Jn 6:63)

dave:
I can understand that, its so very simple and true, but what does that mean to Edgar Flattenburger? Just what is "spirit"?
A rock is hard. The ocean is salty. A dog barks. A bear has fur. We can go on, all the animals are flesh and all humans are a different kind of flesh. The sun is hot and sand is siffted. Just what is spirit? 

Daywalker your answer is good and acceptable, I like it I agree with it but tell me ....
just what is spirit? I do not claim to know, but I know that it is as real and full of substance that is not seen by just anybody, for it is not felt or known by just any soul who claims Jesus as the Saviour.
Spirit is very much like the first taste of cotton candy to a 3 yr old on a hot evening at a carnival... scary, nice and wanting more.
Spirit is real when one believes, and knows what Jesus taught is living the life, giving it...and that more abundantly. Thank you a soul searching.

Dave in Tenn:
Timely question.  God bless you.

SPIRIT is one of those words that needs to be removed from the mouths of ministers of satan and brought into the light.  That's not a definition, but it's true, I think.

Spirit is invisible, but is the essential realness.  It's the light, and the visible is the shadow that it casts.  It's at the bottom of everything.

DougE6:

--- Quote ---Are thoughts spirit?  I can't touch, see, or hear my thoughts.  I can't weigh thoughts
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  Just for fun, there is something else, that is very powerful, very fundamental, like thoughts are, that also cannot be touched, seen, heard, or weighed, at least in the abstract.  You know what that is?? Energy!  Now I mean in the abstract, in the very essence,  not when it is manifested and released like in heat energy that you can feel when a fire is burning. In the abstract, the real fundamental definition of energy is "the ability to do work"  So if a big rock is sitting on top of a hill, it posesses energy, it can do work, it can crush whatever is below or turn a turbine...it is called potential energy, it cannot be seen, or felt, or weighed, but it is there!  It can create a great effect, when that rock falls! What exactly is this energy concept, force, whatever, anyway?

And energy cannot be created or destroyed! Is that not interesting?  So this potential to do work, it can be manifest in many ways, yet it always exists, cannot be added to or subtracted from. And to make it even more mysterious, everything that exists, can be said to have come from energy, because matter can be converted into energy or vice versa, by Einsteins formula E=mc squared.  So to really make it weird, lets say we converted all the matter in the universe directly into energy, into one utterly vast potential.  If this potential was not being manifest as heat or light, just as potential, it would be invisible, it would weigh nothing, you could hold it in your hand (metaphorically) yet it would represent unfathomable power. What exactly is this potential?

I think the closest physical parallel to spirit is energy. Energy lies at the root of every physical thing and every physical action in the universe, it is everywhere in the universe, it is the power to make things happen, it is invisible, yet its effects are felt and seen.  Kind of like the wind, like when Jesus compared spirit to wind, that it is invisible, you don't know where it comes from, but you can see its effects!
...So for the most speculative question of all, did this incredibly vast potential exist in God, and out of this vast potential, did He bring it forth to  to manifest itself in the physical world, and that is what we call energy? I don't know, but I have wondered about it.
Doug

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