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rumpelstiltskin:
Thank you Extol for taking the time to find those emails, I may have read them before but have since forgotten so thanks for bringing them to my attention. The excerpt you you gave from Ray's conference was the same one I was thinking of in my reply to the other forum users. All I can say is "Thank God for that!!"

Peace

santikos:
i actually think it would be interesting to speak to someone who has no babylonian indoctronation and has come to know the truth. as a person who was in the "church" it is easy to read the bible sometime with preconcieved teachings from church. And yes it is a lonely road. all the prophets were alone, they did not have a following and their messages were, for the most part, not recieved. Even Jesus, as the end of his ministry, was abandoned.

DougE6:
Hello Santikos

My natural impulse is to preach. I want to know if someone HAS to go through Babylon in order to be called out of it, to embrace these truths; or does Babylon also include not being in church.  I preach a LOT to athiests, as I have a fair amount of athiest friends.  They can never really out argue the truth, like they can eternal torment, and traditional christian beliefs,  but their hearts are not ready...not yet anyway.  I also preach to all my Babylon friends, at the proper time and place, usually in small snippets.  Though when the situ permits, I let it fly.

I cannot just sit by and be all to myself only.  I want to take the greatest news, the true good news, to as many as possible, not to debate, but to convert!  Should not the real truth have great power to convert?  Or is babylon a absolutely essential step. maybe I should email Ray this question. Any takers? Is Babylon a very necessary prerequisite?

Doug

Extol:
Doug,

I've been wondering this lately, as I have been pondering having children in the future. How would I raise them, if Babylon is a necessary step? How will I teach them the truths of God? Naturally, I would like to teach them the wonderful news that I've learned from this website and the Scriptures. But should I try to do that, or must I send them to a church for them to come out of first? This may be getting a bit off topic but I'm curious to know if anyone here has had children (after already knowing the Truth), and if so, how do you teach them?

Jesse  8)

G. Driggs:
I was raised up going to church, but for the most part my kids weren't. My kids know what I believe, and I occasionally share with them what I have learned here.

Almost a year ago my 13 year old daughter started going to the local baptist church with a friend, but I didn't try to stop her. I did however tell her to be careful about what they teach and she eventually quit going. I even asked her if she "got saved" to which she said yes. I couldn't help but to chuckle and give her one of them I understand smiles. I honestly can't remember if I explained to her that saying a 12 sec sinners prayer doesn't really save you.

So I guess I wouldn't worry it about it too much. If God wants them to go to church then they will. I know no matter what that they will eventually be saved.

I think its good to share with them what I've learned here, but I think it's more important to teach them by example. Words don't mean squat if I can't "walk the talk".  :)

G.Driggs

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