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dave:
Yes, all is well,

Kat:

Hi Amelia,


--- Quote ---  Knowing God's plan for us, brings me great comfort, because me too, am beginning to know "the end from the beginning" in Jesus, of course.
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That is a interesting comment, I don't think I have ever thought if it that way before, but it certainly is true. We are beginning to understand the end results of this creation. Sometimes I think how we are being given the answer to that fundamental question, what is this life all about. How great is it to have the peace of this knowledge, but we can not really share it with the rest of the world, they look on what we have to say as foolishness. We do have one another here though and that is a a wonderful blessing for us to have each other to discuss these things with  :)

mercy, peace and love
Kat

onelovedread:
So basically, we're not able to answer the question, right? :P

dave:
Yes, but for me its just on a back burner. :-\

G. Driggs:
We know from Ray papers that "women" are symbolic of the church. Either the Babylonian Church or the Church who has been called out.

I think Longhorn is right on, very straight forward and to the point. Giving birth to a child was always meant to hurt, the physiology of a woman is proof. I'm not a woman so correct me if I'm wrong. I was with my wife during one childbirth, and everything about it seemed painful. Could literal childbirth have been any other way? I dont know, maybe.

So it might be safe to say that Gen. 3:16 is only a shadow of an higher spiritual reality. As is all of the Old Testament. There is a whole mountain of spiritual truth in Gen. 3:16. I looked up a few keywords in esword that I thought might be related to Gen. 3:16 and it was awesome. :)I mean there is a lot there. I'll give you a couple I found to be interesting.

Isa 26:17  Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD.

Rev 12:1  And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Rev 12:2  And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

I really like what Ray has to say about it.

http://www.bible-truths.com/lake7.html

Locked within the symbolic language of the seven churches of Revelation is one of the most intriguing revelations of the spiritual weaknesses of mankind that we could ever discover. Out of these spiritual weaknesses, God is calling a people that will have great strength. Much of the strength and character and godliness are acquired by the very act of coming out of this corrupted system. It is akin to the pains of childbirth. You women are asking how I would know anything about that, seeing I never gave birth to a child. Okay, then, the pain can be horrific like an abscessed tooth (I have experienced that). The tooth must come out. And if the infant does not come out, it will die and the mother as well.
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Worthy and interesting question micah7:9. :)

Peace,

G.Driggs

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