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G. Driggs:
You don't have to answer this Tau, but "looking back" now (like John did), can you see how you were a beast and a sinner? If so then this might help you understand that maybe you have found Him.

Rev 2:5 Then remember from where you have fallen, and repent, and do the first works. And if not, I am coming to you quickly, and will remove your lampstand from its place, unless you repent.

Just like when the Prodigal Son realized he left his father (who loved him very much but never the less obliges his son) to live an sinful "free will" lifestyle and after realizing what a sinful beast he has been, he goes back to his father humbled with the intent of being an hired servant. His father sees his son coming back (repenting) afar off and with mercy and compassion runs to his son kisses him on his neck and gives his son the best robe, a ring and a fatted calf to celebrate.

So I guess my point is we can know when we found Him when we humble ourselves and repent of the way we used to believe and the way we used to live. The absolute truth is He comes to us, finds us and by His goodness causes us to repent.

Just wanted to add to Kat's great response, and give my 2 cents worth. :)

Peace,

G.Driggs

tau:
G.D
I am not ashamed to answer that, if the position of the chief sinner is filled, is position two still open? ;D! I have done and said things in my life i will eternally be ashamed of, i cannot at times believe i could have been so cold and calculating (you know, being very selfish - the me first mentality regardless of who it hurts), what shames me more is at times i had a feeling i could have chosen differently from the choices i made, but some how, (like Pharoh) I hardened or my heart was hardened. So, now I review my ways carefully daily, I am forever on a watch out what i say, i am no longer dogmatic in views, i accept and ask as openly and as sincere as is humanly possible, i try not to be boastful, if i am told i am, i immediately apologies and accept the view that 'at times the doer is less aware of the injuries he can inflict on others', i really am trying to let God teach me humility and I want to keep on keeping on. Kat answers always amazes me, if she were a horse, i'd bet on her ;D! (don't do horses, don't how they play as well!!). So, I consider myself lucky, like Ray says somewhere in his teaching's 'we are no different from all these other people we consider to be bad, remove God's grace from us, we really become the beasts ourselves.' So, yes I know and not only have i repented, i do not feel it a load anymore and i really like my new self. I am on a watch out though, who knows what the devil might be up to, considering how long he has been around, i am sure his bag of tricks never runs out, after all - satan left Jesus only for a season after testing him. So, I guess the key word is to ENDURE TO THE END. I like saying to my wife, I hope oneday when I lay on my deathbed, I like Jesus could say, 'its finished" and like Paul, I kept the faith, I finished the course and now with faith I look forward to a promise, Heb 12:22-24 - is the most profound (for me) a scripture and it gives me goose pimples always when i read it!!. So, I now want to press on towards the price, knowing its the beast in me that needs to be tamed, Paul says every day he keeps his body under subjection, making sure it does what he wants, I think it a good idea to do the same. That bible verse Kat quotes in Rev, now make more sense than i initially understood. I always marvel at the signature quote of Dave Heb 10:32, so much wisdom and truth in those words, just wish at times the indurance could be lessened!!

Much appreciated.

tau:
Sorry! my bad!! ;D I meant to say G.D's quote!! on Revelation  :o!

patmokgoko:
Hi Lion,maybe i am a bit out of order but i am burning to tell you about what i said at our meeting regarding the prodigal son.The prodigal son didn't wake up and chose to repent free willingly , no, he was caused by hunger.The elder brother in this parable is the "believer" who does not want the younger brother (unbeliever) to enter into the kingdom of the father,he (the believer) thinks he has worked (with his power and free will) to qualify.Dont you ever think that the prodigal son just got into the house smiling and laughing,no, first he was put to shame(then humility), again dont you dare think that the new and expensive  robe was just put on  top of his sweat(remember he was with pigs,he has been walking in the sun,so he must have been stinking.....and no unclean thing shall enter into the kingdom) so he was first washed with fuller's soap(lake of fire) because the Father is like refiner's fire.The father shows his unconditional love when he kissed him on the neck.Oh we have a problem with the elder brother who thinks the younger brother must die forever and ever and ever, but the father says he was dead but now he is alive(made alive) and was lost and is FOUND.
That is in a nutshell.

Sorry guys ,couldn't help but share!

Grace:

--- Quote ---Hi Lion,maybe i am a bit out of order but i am burning to tell you about what i said at our meeting regarding the prodigal son.The prodigal son didn't wake up and chose to repent free willingly , no, he was caused by hunger.The elder brother in this parable is the "believer" who does not want the younger brother (unbeliever) to enter into the kingdom of the father,he (the believer) thinks he has worked (with his power and free will) to qualify.Dont you ever think that the prodigal son just got into the house smiling and laughing,no, first he was put to shame(then humility), again dont you dare think that the new and expensive  robe was just put on  top of his sweat(remember he was with pigs,he has been walking in the sun,so he must have been stinking.....and no unclean thing shall enter into the kingdom) so he was first washed with fuller's soap(lake of fire) because the Father is like refiner's fire.The father shows his unconditional love when he kissed him on the neck.Oh we have a problem with the elder brother who thinks the younger brother must die forever and ever and ever, but the father says he was dead but now he is alive(made alive) and was lost and is FOUND.
That is in a nutshell.

Sorry guys ,couldn't help but share!
--- End quote ---

Thank you for sharing this Patmokgoko!  Sure makes sense to me!

Grace

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