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About dying
Deborah-Leigh:
It is inevitable, inescapable that Jesus is Risen in His Kingdom that is in us.
Jesus is risen for the world He Saves without partiality or condemnation. ~ :)
arion:
What is really sad is to stop and consider how we would of reacted to the same question before we believe what we believe now to be the truth of these things. Before I believed that I was 'saved' there was always the fear of going to hell and torment. After I thought I was 'saved' it was always the fight of 'well, I know that nothing can remove me from the love of Christ...except me! If I don't perform, don't repent right or anything else I can still be lost.' In other words I believe that nothing could take me away from Christ but I still thought that I too, was a god and that I could prevent God from doing what he wished in my life because what if my 'free will' got in the way? And then too there was the mental torment about having to get people saved and what about my parents and all those that I know of who died and were not saved? Ah...torments indeed!! For me now, I see death as sleep and when the time comes physical death will be welcome.. I don't want to go before my time of course and I am convinced that unless Christ comes first that I too, will die a physical death and I trust that God will be with me during that time as he has been for the rest of my life. I try not to take for granted the peace that I now have over all of these things because it wasn't too long ago that there was anything but real peace in these issues.
Rene:
I also am at peace about my death and realize what a blessing it is to know the truths that we have come to understand regarding the death state. However, it does not prevent me from the grief and sadness that comes from the loss of a love one. This is a pain that even knowledge does not take away. It is a necessary experience in this life. But even with that being said, I am convinced that my grief is less severe because I know the hope that lies ahead. :)
1Thes.4:13 - But, we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope.
René
Dave in Tenn:
Php 1:20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.
Php 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
Php 1:22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
Php 1:24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
Php 1:25 And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith;
Php 1:26 That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again.
That's a good place to be.
gmik:
The link was great Kat....Ray always seems to say it best! :D
I just got over a week of bed-rest! ugh..acute pharygitis and cellulitis (two separate entities)...during the fever, chills, achy phase I never once had a holy thought! I just wanted to be over it and back to normal. Now my sickness was pretty puny compared to the awful pains out there w/ cancer, accidents, wars etc....
so, yes, I would want to leave this world pretty quickly and painlessly. but whilst in pain I don't think I am gonna be pious.
Ray said that heaven was a higher spiritual experience, not a geographical place. (sorry can't remember where he said that, but he did!) So when we do wake up for the resurrection I don't think it will be...oh, yeah, there's Jesus, oh and look over there is Susi etc etc- that is too earthly--I don't think we can imagine it now...even w/ scripture trying to help us.....
this is WAY beyond our understanding....
Death is an enemy that Jesus is victorious over...thats a comfort to me
(sorry for rambling, I am so excited to feel better and actually be on the forum)
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