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About dying
Ireland:
Hi Micah, honest and fair question. I've read many opinions in this thread and we all are in different seasons. If I was going through what you are I would be thinking alot about it too. Several have given good answers but the truth is you are thinking about it and that is normal. I went through about 10 years of not fearing death at all, mainly because of the truth I was learning. I must say though, now that I am in my mid 40's and see alot of pain and death around it has caused me to think about it from time to time. We do have alot of comfort in what we believe, but we also have the flesh and are prone to seasons of highs and lows. These are things that will all contend with and may we all be at peace when the time comes. Personally I have always hoped God would take me during a good night's sleep when I was old and tired. Oh well, we all have certain desires.
dave:
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Here is a link to the article you ask for Olasupo.
http://bible-truths.com/death.htm
Kat
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Very good paper!
dave:
--- Quote from: Ireland on May 14, 2011, 06:26:23 PM ---Hi Micah, honest and fair question. I've read many opinions in this thread and we all are in different seasons. If I was going through what you are I would be thinking alot about it too. Several have given good answers but the truth is you are thinking about it and that is normal. I went through about 10 years of not fearing death at all, mainly because of the truth I was learning. I must say though, now that I am in my mid 40's and see alot of pain and death around it has caused me to think about it from time to time. We do have alot of comfort in what we believe, but we also have the flesh and are prone to seasons of highs and lows. These are things that will all contend with and may we all be at peace when the time comes. Personally I have always hoped God would take me during a good night's sleep when I was old and tired. Oh well, we all have certain desires.
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Thanks. " Personally I have always hoped God would take me during a good night's sleep ..." This would be nice, would not matter if I was 2 months or 92 yrs old. I wish it could be requested.
JohnMichael:
--- Quote from: Arion on May 14, 2011, 07:03:17 AM ---What is really sad is to stop and consider how we would of reacted to the same question before we believe what we believe now to be the truth of these things. Before I believed that I was 'saved' there was always the fear of going to hell and torment. After I thought I was 'saved' it was always the fight of 'well, I know that nothing can remove me from the love of Christ...except me! If I don't perform, don't repent right or anything else I can still be lost.' In other words I believe that nothing could take me away from Christ but I still thought that I too, was a god and that I could prevent God from doing what he wished in my life because what if my 'free will' got in the way? And then too there was the mental torment about having to get people saved and what about my parents and all those that I know of who died and were not saved? Ah...torments indeed!! For me now, I see death as sleep and when the time comes physical death will be welcome.. I don't want to go before my time of course and I am convinced that unless Christ comes first that I too, will die a physical death and I trust that God will be with me during that time as he has been for the rest of my life. I try not to take for granted the peace that I now have over all of these things because it wasn't too long ago that there was anything but real peace in these issues.
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Isn't NOT having free will such a tremendous blessing? When God brought me to the place where I was no longer trying to "buy" my way into His good graces or thinking that it all rested on ME... it was as if the weight of the world fell off my shoulders. There was such a peace that replaced the stress, anxiety, anguish, etc. Thank God for no free will! :)
I didn't mean to hijack the thread, but I just wanted to comment on that as it pertains to death.
Blessings,
John
GaryK:
Sometimes the death of this body puts me in a reflective mood, might even jerk a misty eye from time to time, but mostly not anymore. And I’ve thought long and very hard about the matter. I’ve seen enough brutality and pain, mis-timed absences and departures, missing particulars and participants in this world to know I’m sick of it all, plan or no plan. If it weren’t for having come to the knowledge (thanks Ray) that God has a purpose for every event I’d probably call God out on it to make the suffering end, an arm wrestling contest or something, winner take all. Come to think of it, I probably already have, many many times (that’s our usual morning-time front porch coffee chat), but you-all know that boring routine already. He’s forever the quiet type though (likes to hide behind a bush ;)). Maybe he keeps me around to laugh at me for all the fist shaking toward him.
But through a hard...long....mind-bending struggle... I’ve learned one good thing…..if I’m breathing then I have a purpose and nary bit of control on the matter. The value of our life, right down to the last breath and last movement, is rightly justified in his eyes. And I'm good with that.......finally. And this I’ve learned too: ‘you do not know what tomorrow will bring’. And this: ‘what is your life but a mist that appears for a little while’.
He gives, he takes away. That’s just the way it is.
John said it right, ‘we have no control in the matter’. That’s comforting, really, when you get it down to the nitty-gritty and after some long hard struggles in the mind of man. He works his way in whatever we do and now we know we do it for his will and purpose. Benefit package to follow.
And when it’s done, it’s done. And then we’ll lay our eyes on him. I look forward to that.
(of course, he’s got some ‘splainin’ to do, but whatever ??? ;D )
gk
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