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Ray and his view on Astrology
Kat:
Hi Zander,
Well here is where Ray is talking about planet movement.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.0.html --------------
[comment: the sun keeps the earth in the gravitational orbit, it’s a balance so the planets won’t go flying off into space.]
Yes, but not completely. All of the planet bodies are needful of it, but if you pull Saturn out or if you pull out Mercury, eventually we’re going to die. They all balance this elliptical orbit and the speed and everything So if you pull any one of the planets (well maybe not Pluto-laughter), but if you pull out Jupiter or Saturn or Neptune and you pull them out of the solar system, we will die.
[comment: what would happen first, say if you pulled the sun out? Would it get dark first, what would happen first the gravitational pull or the lose of life?]
Well either way, we’re gone.
[comment: If the sun was pulled out, how soon would the gravitational pull take us out into the universe?]
The gravitational pull to the outside is very slight. A scientist said in relation to astrology, as they say you are born under a certain star, it has to do with the gravitational pull on something. Well he said there is a thousand times more gravity exerted on the new born child by the physical body of the doctor, then the whole outer space combined. It was the doctor’s physical mass holding the baby, that exerts a thousand times more gravitational pull on the baby, which is almost infinitesimally nothing. But still it is a thousand times more than the sun or any other body. It’s very very little.
Now you get the big orbit of the earth. You have that because there is no friction in space, strictly centrifugal force keeping it out there. Speed will keep it out there, but then you got this crazy orbit thing. If you had round orbits it would make sense, but you have an elliptical orbit.
So if it flies by the sun and goes all the way out here and makes the swing and come back, why doesn’t it come back and crash into the sun? Well it’s far enough out and the speed that it by-passes it, without that happening. But it needs all the other planets to do their thing. They’re all orbiting and doing their thing to the fraction of a thousandth of a second, it is perfect timing.
The earth is so finitely balanced with a thousand other things, if you move any one of them, we’re all dead!
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Now I think I understand your question, would there validity in the planets/stars being signs of events that happen on earth.
Gen 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years.
There is a good example of this with the Star that signified the coming of our Savior. Didn't the Magi, being star gazers/astronomers, locate baby Jesus by following signs in the heavens? I do not believe that these Magi were astrologers that believe that celestial bodies influence human affairs, but astronomers which is the study of the motions and natures of celestial bodies, like planets, stars, and galaxies. So there is Scriptural reference to this.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
JohnMichael:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 19, 2011, 11:50:27 AM ---It never gets boring here.
Recently, some members posted they thought that the Sun revolved around the Earth.
Now Astrology.
What next? Elvis is still alive.
--- End quote ---
You didn't know?! ;D ;D ;D
On topic, the danger is the stars and planets are used for divination (basis of Astrology), and divination is a form of witchcraft - which is rebellion against God. It's existence proves that God is using it for a purpose - what exactly that purpose is only He knows fully.
gmik:
GPS...funny John!
God is definetly a creator of ORDER- all "things' run the way they were made to
so are the solar systems, planets, big bang, swiss watch, computer etc etc
So, maybe when time runs out (not May 21) maybe it will be done in Order w/ scientific principles all working the way God had planned.
I think it may be when our Sun dies...who can know?
But God is the author and creator of Science, so He created Astronomy...
Astrology altho in use 1,000's of years seem very man made to me.
IMHO
Duane:
When I was in college the subject of astrology was brought up. The teacher reminded us that when the astrological signs were assigned, the belief was that the sun circled around the earth, so ALL the alignments that are involved are WAY OFF!
AN ASSUMPTION BASED ON A FALSE PREMISE CAN'T BE TRUE!--Aristotle
markn902:
--- Quote from: Duane on May 19, 2011, 07:18:45 PM ---When I was in college the subject of astrology was brought up. The teacher reminded us that when the astrological signs were assigned, the belief was that the sun circled around the earth, so ALL the alignments that are involved are WAY OFF!
AN ASSUMPTION BASED ON A FALSE PREMISE CAN'T BE TRUE!--Aristotle
--- End quote ---
Wow that's a really good point about the astrological signs. I hadn't thought of that before guess I learned something today. As for the topic.. :) I think it's worth pointing out that back in BC people worshiped things like the Sun and other astrological things.. As for God using these things in the Old Testament I see it as just using what was important , or at least perceived as important, by people back then. I guess that doesn't answer the question. I'm actually a bit unclear on what the question is but thats my two cents.
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