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Just defending someone slightly...
zander:
Yesterday, Ray put up a letter posted by a gay man who tries to challenge that homosexuality is not a sin.
He made the following statement below:
Secondly the Leviticus Codes of Holiness no longer apply to NT Christians. Leviticus 20:9 orders death to children for cursing their parents? Do we abide by that today, NO! We are under a NEW LAW!
I think Ray answered this incorrectly. Ray went on to explain that cursing parents is still indeed a sin. Aaron (the gay man) was not contesting this notion. I think what Aaron was saying, is that we no longer order death to children today if we curse our parents - NOT the actual act of cursing our parents.
Just wanted to point it out.
Craig:
Zander I don't agree with you. Aaron's whole premise was that homosexuality was not a sin in the New Testament. Ray pointed out that even though we may not put to death a child that curses their parents, it is still a sin. And yes Aaron was contesting this notion.
Know this, if I emailed Ray and said gossip, or adultry or any number of sins was not a sin then he would let me have it with both barrels also. Ray is not judging the sinner but he does judge the sin. It's been awhile but this response is vintage Ray.
Craig
zander:
OK. (btw i am not entering the argument of homosexuality).
It just seems that Aaron was making the point that we no longer order the death of children, which is fair enough as we don't. But Ray answered it as if to say its not a sin to curse our parents. I'm sure Aaron or any basic Christian would understand that it Is of course a sin to curse our parents. I would have understood it more had it been answered something like "even though today we no longer order the death of children for it, cursing your parents is still a punishable sin."
I know we will have differing opinions on it, but its just the way i am seeing it.
Craig:
I see where you are going Zander. Ray was using sarcasm, Aaron used the premise of cursing your parents is not a sin in the new testament to justify homosexuality and Ray went along with him.
Craig
zander:
OK i dont know if i'm being misunderstood, maybe its the way i'm writing it.
Forget the Cursing of parents. Lets forget that entirely for a second. Pretend it never even came up.
Aaron's point (the way i see it) was that in Leviticus they ordered children to die.
Aaron's point being now that Children are NO longer ordered to die in the New Testament.
The way i see it, Ray didnt address that today, we no longer order children to die. He instead talked about the other bit.
Anyway, its not really a huge deal.
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