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GaryK:
Whelp, I’m gonna rant to you like-minded believers.
 
I'm not a stranger on this forum and I've been here for a while and yea, I usually do rant when I post, and my posts are rare except for the occasional reply, but, I speak my mind, and not just with you-all, but every day on the porch with my dog toward God over coffee, minus him, but you know that already.

The escape key is to the left top, hit it while you can.

Bad things happen to good people.
   
Bad things happen to bad people.

The difference usually is that the good people look for....why???....the bad people don’t give a rat’s behind about why, why?...because that’s the world of depravity, greed, self-deceit and selfishness they live, so they don’t care.   Allowing a little room for those who....’may’ have a small string of decency buried somewhere in their pea-pickin heart.

But THIS????!!!!....God, THIS????

Body of Toddler Missing in Joplin, Missouri, Tornado Found at Morgue, Relatives Say

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/26/body-toddler-missing-joplin-tornado/#ixzz1NU9Z2ZZz

Why.......It’s God’s will, of course, GK.  We don’t question it now that we KNOW it’s god’s will, we just say, “well, it’s gods will GK, and he’s a good and holy god and so one day we’ll all know GK”.  Oh, and forgive us lord when we doubt.
 
THIS!......is where the bone picking starts, and THIS is where I have wrestled for so long.  So much so that I believe I am, or have, lost belief and faith that there even IS a god.  If weighed in the balance it leans toward there simply isn’t a god, we’re all just some sort of loose mechanism of dog eat dog.

But.

This is in-excusable.  In-excusable!!    A baby.   A 16 month old baby, mind you .....GOD!....., plucked out of mom’s arms in a whirlwind, straight from God’s heaven, and plopped down on the ground at what?.....205 mph?...with what would be, I’m certain, every little bone broken.    For WHAT???   To appease a plan?   A plan of what?   Mercy?  I’ve pretty sure I can nail your plan of mercy in about 4 words, a pile of....(you figure the rest).
   
But, of all the bad things going on in this world where ‘justice’ could be better served, shaped and defined in some of more particular circumstances where it most assuredly belongs, and I’ve said it before and it’s true, some souls serve better purpose in this life as puddles.  And I’ve stomped a few and a couple down to that level, God’s will, of course.  Not particularly proud of it.  Ashamed, actually.  But that's his problem cause it was his will.  So be it.
   
But instead, we get this, this.....child heaped in broken bones and a family with broken hearts.

I won’t bring up the husband who threw his body over his wife while the twister was churning.    He died, she lived.   She’s dying inside her heart now.

Yes indeed, God’s perfect, holy, loving, unquestionable WILL.
 
I’m losing my faith folks, if I ever had any.  I’m losing ground, hard.   I once looked at God as a loving god, way back when, but, I don’t do that anymore.  I question him.  I literally curse at him.  I scream at him sometimes, rarely, but I do.   And not just over this but over a conglomeration of things that happened that I just don’t understand, at all, now that I’ve learned they all come from his..er...loving plan.    I’m losing my mind and control trying to better understand this...’god’.... that I once held in high regard and esteem.  I tell him to just leave me be, don’t give me some one-trillionth of wisdom and then parlay the ‘pearl’ as....‘gee GK, you go find the rest, but know this, it’s all a big mystery’.    Bull, either give it or go hide behind your bush, you’re good at it and you usually do..... routinely.

God help us all, no really, because I believe I’m at the point of just hanging up my cleats.

If anyone deserves the lake of fire, I do, for all the bad attitude and bad words I’ve said in the last four years against God and Christ.  And I have.  I don’t have a good heart for it anymore, I've lost my handle on it, if I ever did. And I don’t see any change coming on, not for the better anyway.
 
Maybe it’s not true after all, this......’he finishes what he starts’.
   
The valley is deep where I am, and there’s no light here.

There's things and people in this world that accountability needs be held NOW, and it can start with my bad attitude, I'll take it and I can handle it, I think, but BY GOD, spread it to those that deserve it more.  I'm not foolish and I haven't gone so far as to not be afeared of God hands, but, I'm close.

Don’t come here, hold to your faith with all you've got (if he gives it to you).

gk

Dave in Tenn:
OK if I rant back?

Been there and done that, GK.  

I didn't ask to believe.  There are many days I wish I didn't.  I understand what you are going through.  It's the whiny, self-serving bull as I lived through.  Nothing new.

Thirty seconds before clicking onto B-T.com, I was an agnostic and living life as a functional atheist--not the thoughtfull, chin-stroking kind, but the 'who gives a ****' kind.  The only thing that kept me from total despair and suicide was laziness and apathy.  On top of that, I couldn't stand high-and-mightily above it all imagining that I was part of the solution for the evil of the world.  I was part of the problem.  Try living with that, if you really hate evil.

In my travels, I've only encountered three possible 'true scenarios'.  1.  There is no God and all this is random.  2.  There is a God, and He is a dithering, finger-waggling, sadistic, weak *******.  3.  There is God and I am not Him.

Consider that a hug, Gary.  That's the best I can do.


  

daywalker:

I certainly feel ya, GK, I don't for a moment judge you for how you feel as I go through these same spills. That being said, this may not seem true to you at this time, but it is true nonetheless: God loves that 16-month old baby far more than you do, and far more than its parents did. It doesn't sound plausible considering the circumstances, I know. When I am having similar thoughts & feelings as you are right now I try to reflect on what Paul said to the Romans:

"Why, what we now suffer I count as nothing in comparison with the glory which is soon to be manifested in us." (Rom 8:18)

Whatever's coming, beginning in the next age, has got to be amazingly, overwhelmingly, a-w-e-s-o-m-e if what we all suffer here now is "nothing in comparison"!  ??? :o ;D :D


Hope this helps. Godspeed,

Christopher  8)

Joel:
Escape key, I have been an escapist most of my life. :-\
A preacher I had some respect for many years ago, said to leave God, religion, everything that I had at that time, and see if God would allow it.
I took him at his word, and did just that, was I any better off?, I thought I was at least for a short time.
Tried to put all I knew behind me, it worked to a small degree but I was a miserable man.
After some 20 years God rung my number, so here I am today. This is BT, so here are a couple for you.

Psalms 51:6, Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

Hebrews 12:25-29, So see to it that you obey him who is speaking to you. For if the people of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, how terrible our danger if we refuse to listen  to God who speaks to us from heaven!
When he spoke from Mount Sinai his voice shook the earth, but, "next time," he says, I will not only shake the earth , but the heavens too." By this he means that he will sift out everything without solid foundations, so that only the unshakable things will be left.
Since we have a kingdom nothing can destroy, let us please God by serving him with thankful hearts, and with holy fear and awe. For our God is a consuming fire.

Joel

John from Kentucky:
gk

Yeah, I read that story about the baby.  It bothers me.  I cannot completely understand it.

I believe there is a God because I cannot make myself believe there is not a God.  Where did everything come from?  I refuse to be stupid and believe that all this stuff (including mankind) made itself out of nothing.  No one has been able to show me how something can make itself.  Therefore, I am left with the conclusion that there is a sovereign God.

God and good I can easily understand.

God and evil?  I cannot as easily make the connection.  Apparently, from the scriptures, a knowledge of good and evil is a necessary requisite to have a mind like God.  If we were just told about evil, or just read about it in a book, apparently we wouldn't understand it.  Therefore, it is necessary for us to experience evil in order to truly understand it.  God is rubbing evil in our faces, both individually and mankind as a whole, for us to truly understand evil.

God gave all life.  God takes all life.  "...The LORD gave and the LORD takes away, praise be to the name of the LORD."  Job 1:21  Can the pot judge the Potter?  In the ages to come He will resurrect all mankind back to life and give us all immortal life in happiness.

Jesus had a hard time of torture and death.  If I were Jesus, I would have asked, " What did I do to deserve this?"

So, I cannot completely understand evil now.  But I do believe complete understanding will be given to me in the future.  That is good enough for me right now.

John

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