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dave:
I want to get back to the Adams mother post, this was something I have been studying and I felt it out of place with the Adams mother post.


Rom 5:12  because of this, even as through one man the sin did enter into the world, and through the sin the death; and thus to all men the death did pass through, for that all did sin;

I have always been told that this "one man" was/is adam. Here is where, for me anyway, I get to reasoning, the Bible does not say in Gen.3 that man/woman/adam sinned.

Now in Gen. 4:7 is the first time "sin" is used and it is in reference to Cain.

Rom 5:14  Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

I am given to see that Adam is man(kind) Cain/adam/man(kind) commited sin.

mharrell08:

--- Quote from: micah7:9 on June 14, 2011, 10:12:47 PM ---So then Paul writes in Rom.5:12 "through one man the sin" now we know that man/woman/adam disobeyed but did not sin. At least the writer does not use that word.
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Why would disobedience not be a sin?

Craig:
The sin occurred before any disobedience, didn't Eve lust after the fruit before she ate it?

Craig

dave:

--- Quote from: mharrell08 on June 15, 2011, 08:49:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: micah7:9 on June 14, 2011, 10:12:47 PM ---So then Paul writes in Rom.5:12 "through one man the sin" now we know that man/woman/adam disobeyed but did not sin. At least the writer does not use that word.
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Why would disobedience not be a sin?

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Iam sure it is, but my question would be, if it so obvious, why didnt Paul call it that?

dave:

--- Quote from: Craig on June 15, 2011, 09:16:05 AM ---The sin occurred before any disobedience, didn't Eve lust after the fruit before she ate it?

Craig

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What sin occurred before the disobedience? I dont read a possibility of sin until Gen.4:7.
"didn't Eve lust after the fruit before she ate it?"
Yes, Ray has pointed that out. I had not seen that, but it is plain in Gen. 3:6.

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