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Jesus and the Father in the OT

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Stacey:
Ever since the March 2011 bible study I can't think of the word "God" as being one person. Its just too vague of a description to describe who it is that is being talked about. Ray said,

"I would have made a distinction. I would have translated it something like this, since we know what God is from other Scriptures and so on. I would have translated it something like this, in the beginning the Almighty Family created the heavens and the earth. What’s wrong with that? To me that’s what God is. Takes care of the ‘one,’ family, takes care of the plural, family has more than one unit.

Or we could say, the Almighty Divine Family, saying let Us make man in Our image. You could throw the word divine or divinity in there, that okay that’s a good word. It takes care of the plurality of the word Elohim. We could call Him the Almighty Divine Family. What’s wrong with that?"

and my thinking about "God" changed forever. GK and John, me too on the who to pray to thing. I reckon since Jesus is the mediator, if I pray to Jesus it will get to the who it needs to.

DOES GOD TALK TO HIMSELF?

I don't know, even after reading everything here but, if there was ever a time when the Father was by Himself I suppose that isn't totally out of the question.

JohnMichael:
As Kat and Samson can attest to, this has been a sticking point for me. Some interesting Scriptures that I found to add to the discussion:

Joh 4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

2Co 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

1Ti 1:17  Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Mal 1:14  But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the LORD of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen.

1Ti 6:15  Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate (Greek: Ruler), the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16  Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Rev 19:16  And on His outer garment and on His thigh He has a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Rev 19:13  The outer garment in which He is clad has been dipped in blood and His name is THE WORD OF GOD.

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...

Jer 10:10  But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God (Hebrew: El), The everlasting (Hebrew: 'ad' - continual, perpetual) Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mal 1:6  A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the LORD of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?

Rom 11:34  For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
Rom 11:35  Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
Rom 11:36  For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Mal 3:6  For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Zec 13:9  And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.


Needless to say, I'm really really really waiting on Ray's article (Lord willing he finishes it).

In Him,
John

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